Interesting people on forgiveness

In the news yesterday, a new development in the latest stage of the ever running death camp trials. Here, a website with details about the trials of some who organized the death camps under Adolf Hitler. In a new development, a long standing escapee from the 'Nazi Hunters', John Demjanjuk, apparently a Polish guard at the 'Sobibor' camps, has been charged with 27,900
counts of 'accessory to murder'.

Charges were filed at a state court in Munich.

The German prosecutors demonstrate a mania similar to that of their German predecessors. Twenty seven thousand nine hundred counts? He alone assisted, physically and personally, John Demanjuk, on each count, when his own personal intervention or refusal could have saved all the victims, each one?

The German nation is dumping its sins on a scapegoat, and hauling the goat up hill for slaughter. ( He's a guilty scapegoat, according to evidence that's apparently surfaced, but all the same).

I have met some Holocaust survivors ( when I was living in France, where quite a few of them are). Two, I knew well. In respect of the Polish who stood letting the holocaust happen, who did not assist, the survivors invariably advocate gentility and compassion. The Polish, though nearer to the camps than other nations, are less guilty than a number. Poles seen assisting a Jew in any shape or form were to be shot on sight, by decree.

The survivors don't have an 'us and them' ( ingroup-outgroup) mentality; they talk about man's inhumanity to man.

Here, a University study, forgiveness and resiliance, the Holocaust survivors.

"By studying the life experiences of older adults who endured the Holocaust, survived the atrocities perpetuated by one group upon another—and were able to triumph over adversity—we learn about the concepts of forgiveness and resilience," Greene said.

"The insights gleaned from interviewing this unique group of survivors can morally and spiritually equip individual communities and the country as a whole to deal with critical events facing the United States in today's uncertain world."

Here, the narrative.

Of course, there was a difference between doing nothing and saying 'Well, I've got my children to consider', and assisting at Sobibor and Bergen Belsen and other camps ( an act avoided by most of the oppressed Poles who felt the weight of their shame.)

Here, Eva Kor, Holocaust survivor, speaks of forgiving the Auschwitz Nazis. 'Forgiving Dr. Mengele' is the title of her story. A beautiful person, with full experience. Here, her heartbreaking story. Her heart is the work of Christ. She understands the God of the Hebrew bible and responds with dignity and strength, shaming her persecutors, as did so many of those who died under the Holocaust regime. Here, more information on her. This lady is not saying these people she forgives were not what they were; she recognises the extent of their sin and that they desperately need forgiveness ( or needed it), whether they admit(ed) it or not.

Here is Sally Klein O'Connor, 'Forgive them', with her point of view.

Forgiveness of people who set themselves as our enemies defies satan, and leaves him with nothing, which is all he is worth. He can't stand it. He hates it as much as genuine personal praise to God.

There is some objection to Eva 'making amnesty declarations' and ' issuing forgiveness decrees', while otherwise people feel she can get on with what she feels she needs to do. It's entirely true that while the bible requires us to personally forgive our enemies, whatever, we don't have the right to put decrees on anyone else, or forgive ( or unforgive) on anyone else's behalf. The fact that Eva's 'forgiving on everyone's behalf' though, which is endearing , should be seen with interest and compassion. She's removed power over her from one of the most dreadful persecutors the world has ever seen, and objections should be overlooked in her case, surely. She is not attention seeking, she is not in denial. She was one of the children at the front of the procession leaving Auschwitz at the liberation, and can point to her very young face.

Which incidentally still shows a smile for the joy of life at the liberation.

Jesus said, 'Unless you become like one of these, ( children) you will not enter the Kingdom of God.' He is talking about love and forgiveness.

He also said 'If you do not forgive others, your Heavenly Father will not forgive you.' And 'Love one another as I have loved you.' Everyone's sins put Jesus on the cross.

Here, pictures of the children at Auschwitz, some who were at the liberation, and others who did not make it.

'Forgiving Dr Mengele' trailer below.




(Ignore comments beneath the videos on the youtube comments boxes. You don't have to go there to see videos here.)
In the first video, you see the second child in the photographs taken on admissal to Mengele's part of Auschwitz, ( there is a photo showing the girls' head in a scarf on the right of three pictures.) The child's features bear quite a striking resemblance to Eva Moses Kor's adult features. The fact that Eva survived and these photos were maintained by officers ( an officer?) rather than destroyed, might bear the resemblance out. The child seems to be showing a remarkable attitude of compassion towards those photographing her.

The Lord Jesus clearly commands that on seeing an individual being victimized, such as the Holocaust victims were, you should not stand there and do nothing.

Jesus said: ' When you did it not for the least of these, you did it not for me.'

This bible commandment is found as early on as Deuteronomy and Leviticus. Throughout the Old Testament you seethe compassionate heart of God.

Finding animals to slaughter who'd represent and carry the nations sins was over the moment Jesus gave up his breath, shouted 'It is finished!' and died. The holy sacrifice rites of the Old Testament ( the Hebrew bible) were never intended to give the world a scapegoat mentality. The killing of the sacrificial lamb at Passover symbolized the coming Messiah, the lamb of God, taking the penalty for our sin through his death. The temple sacrifices were holy and sacred for this reason. So are the 'three days' constantly referred to in the OT (Hebrew bible). Jesus rose from the dead 'on the third day'.

"The effort to bring Demjanjuk to justice sends a very powerful message that the passage of time in no way diminishes the guilt of the perpetrator," said the top Nazi-hunter at the Simon Wiesenthal Center, Efraim Zuroff, who described the charges as "an important step forward."

The Messiah said we must accept that we are helpless as sinners, repent of our sins, and accept that he has completely paid the price for our sins. And we must refuse to judge and punish others; we must refuse to want them to suffer. All others. There is no sub clause. Whatever the sin committed against us, we must forgive, we must let it go.

We leave all judgment to the Judgment seat of Christ.

As we do this Yahweh calls us children of God.

We rise above the heathen. He helps us.

Forgiveness is the love of God manifest in this world.

'For so greatly did God love the world that He gave His only Son, that every one who trusts in Him may not perish but may have the Life of Ages.'

Forgiveness of others, forms part of the faith God always wanted from us; it shows our unconditional love for Him and our respect for his creation in the beginning. The faith he wants was the faith of the patriarchs, of Job, of the persecuted prophets, it was the faith of Daniel, it was the faith of those who walked in the flames while the Lord walked with them. It's nothing to do with 'contract faith' between God and man; 'contract faith' is not what God wants. He never wanted 'contract faith', He loved us too much.
Forgiveness of others is about unconditional love for God in return for His unconditional love for us. That's what He wants.

*****Are those who died in the holocaust all in heaven, given the acts committed against them? Is being asked over and over, on the web. See Jesus' story of the poor beggar outside the gates, who died after a life of extreme hardship, and was taken up by the angels. He was no scholar, was he.

19 Jesus said, "There was a certain rich man who was splendidly clothed and who lived each day in luxury. 20 At his door lay a diseased beggar named Lazarus. 21 As Lazarus lay there longing for scraps from the rich man's table, the dogs would come and lick his open sores. 22 Finally, the beggar died and was carried by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and his soul went to the place of the dead. There, in torment, he saw Lazarus in the far distance with Abraham. 24 "The rich man shouted, 'Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in these flames.' 25 "But Abraham said to him, 'Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish. ...... "

C.S. Lewis opines that if a person has never had the chance to hear the gospel of Christ, and dies prematurely, perhaps in childhood, then his or her response to the Holy Spirit, (specifically, a heart's demonstration of acceptance of a love for the Holy Spirit of God, Jesus' Spirit) is taken as that individual's response to God's call to accept Christ. This makes sense to me. By the same Jesus that C.S. Lewis studied, this will be especially the case for children who emanate the Lord's heart in their circumstances.

Here, the story of a Holocaust surivor's 'dramatic journey to the Messiah.' He is calling himself a 'Messianic Jew' which simply means the same thing as 'Christian', Messiah is translated 'Christ'. Many people prefer to use the Hebrew texts. This is great, just as no one should separate themselves from the true Church of Christ, which is one body. ( That's Jesus.)

If the Holocaust survivors can forgive their enemies, so can any of us in the present day.

There is one quote, from a survivor, on exiting Auschwitz: 'Our hearts are still beating in our bodies, but we will never feel the joy of life again'. The emotion Elie Weisel elicits is instant sympathy and compassion. (ignore ad on top right of this video). More here. A thing very beautiful about the gentleness of the survivors, and it is steadfast, is their simple sincerity and frankness at all times.

A number of people tragically passed away just before the liberation, their minds and bodies couldn't cope with the shock.

This lady survivor's choice of quote, here: 'Behold, he who keeps Israel will neither slumber or sleep.'

'The one watches Israel will His vigil keep,
In the burning sunlight, or in the darkness deep.
Constantly beside you, you need not fear atall,
He is never weary, and He will not let you fall.'

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Hillsong's 'Yahweh' song, 'We look to Yahweh' is only just out, and it looks as if it'll be a while before Sydney are easy about it being loose on the web. Here, the Wiki.

We'll have to wait to have it again here, for however long it takes to go back up on the web with their permission. Not long. It has been in the Churches for a while. People who loved it are free to get it for themselves.

Jesus' suffering for our sakes was first and foremost about taking the punishment for everyone's sins. And he asks us to receive this, and forgive others. It was also about our healing, which he achieved there, on the cross. He did not have to it. But 'he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.' (Here, Hillsong's 'Shout to the Lord.' song.)

It is more than obvious to anyone that people who commit acts such as Mengele's, on discovery, should be put away for life, where they can harm no other person. They can work out their repentance there. There's nothing stopping them doing that. Here, the Wiki on Mengele.

Eva's statements show she probably had a very proactive forgiveness attitude towards Mengele while she was in his captivity. She seems to have been very vocal about it, and feisty with it. Probably.

'Even to this day I am amazed,' she says, 'that he did not kill me'.

Perhaps Mengele did have some idea of how desperately he needed forgiveness.

Report after report of survivors who've been contained in such circumstances ( and Auschwitz is perhaps the most extreme example) shows evidence of this kind of development. Eva, in her childish manner, responded to Mengele's unspeakable mistreatment of her with an attitude known as 'grace', which she seems to have demonstrated very expressively, very dynamically.

He let her live, apparently.

It seems as if the children had some kind of (unspoken?) forgiveness attitude shared between them, while they were there. Perhaps they made a pact between them of some kind.

It is perhaps no coincidence that on the liberation of Auschwitz, Eva Mozes ( Now Eva Mozes Kor) was heading up the little procession of child survivors. Perhaps no coincidence that they followed her out, with their lives.

I find it sad that some people should want to judge and condescend at Eva rather than try to understand her story.

Here, a review of the documentary.

"For a film about death-camp survivors "Forgiving Dr. Mengele" is surprisingly uplifting and, at times, even lighthearted. Ms. Kor, a stout little sparkplug of a woman with energy to burn, charges around Terre Haute in a red-white-and-blue pantsuit, selling houses, giving speeches at schools and museums, and cheerfully reminding her interviewer that "there's more to life than Auschwitz."

Whether or not you agree with her decision to forgive her torturers, it's impossible not to be moved by her fierce capacity for life."

Letters that got forgotten

I had a quick look at this blog people; what do you think? 'Holocaust victims accuse'.

Eichmann (click), an SS officer, World War II, held strong Zionist sympathies at the outset of his career. A number of officers ( the smaller number, there were a few) were part Jewish- Hans Frank, for example, a lawyer responsible for the rounding up of Jews in Poland, and observe Reinhart Heydritch, (profile here), whom Hitler considered a possible successor, whose Jewish origin was well known; particularly vocal, ( if you can attribute that elegant descriptive to the SS more regular expression of Nazi police ideologies..... ) it is thought that he was as rabidly anti-Semitic as he was in order to ensure to ensure that his German SS superiors never fell into doubt about his party allegiance.

"The Eichmann trial had a double purpose: that of seeking justice against the beastly instincts in man and that of educating us to the nature of the wickedness of nations. As for the shadow trial which must be held against our own brethren, its sole purpose is educational. Secularism must be placed upon the prosecutor’s bench of the guilty and exposed as the mortal enemy of our people."

During the second world war, my father (SOE) worked to sabotage and counter Nazi (SS) Intelligence and Nazi operations. I came across an article about a letter sent by Jewish Warsaw ghetto inhabitants to the prominent Jews of America of the epoque who 'd declined to lobby for the European Jewish cause even though ( as the letter rightly points out) the terrible dilemma had been highlighted by the British press (and consequently the US press) early on ( before the construction of the Auschwitz camp).

Europe's Jews beg US: "Respond, at least." ( New York, 21 Jan, 1943.)

Jewish leaders have received a plea from the Warsaw ghetto dwellers, who say that they are "poised at the brink of annihilation". It says: "We notify you of the greatest crime of all times, about the murder of millions of Jews in Poland"..." Brothers, the remaining Jews in Poland live with the awareness that in the most terrible days of our history you did not come to our aid. Respond, at least, in the last days of our life."

It is a terrible indictment of American and British Jews of the epoque- and their descendants ( American Jews in particular)- who oddly enough spend a lot of time today capitalising on a 'victim status' platform that those they claim their 'predecessors' purportedly left them to maintain.
Of course the letter also indicts all people who felt content to stand uselessly by. This includes Neutral nations who refused to offer assistance and shelter.

"Dr. Nachum Goldmann, president of Zionist organizations and president of the World Jewish Congress, admitted this year in a public forum commemorating the Warsaw ghetto uprising: “We all are blameworthy, not only in the Q(c)ausative objective factors, but also in the absence of that fervent will and unbridled readiness to adapt any and all necessary measures possible in that period.” "

( But doesn't the letter put it better?)

The letter and the series of articles indicts ( by implication) Antony Eden, of the British, Roosevelt ( of course) and many others, and allows blame to fall on all people in the service of the USA . In London, on the 17th Nov 1942:...." Antony Eden, the British foreign secretary, read a lengthy declaration by the Allied governments condemning the Nazis systematic extermination of Europes Jews and giving warning that those responsible for the atrocities will face retribution after the war. The declaration is being broadcast accross Europe by the BBC and other Allied radios. " ..." Sidney Silverman, the Jewish Labour MP for Nelson and Colne, asked whether the Allied governments would consider what measures of immediate relief could be given to Europe's Jews. ' We shall do what we can,' Eden said, ' though I fear that what we can do may inevitably be slight.' "

'Inevitably.'

'Respond, at least, in the last days of our life.'

The letter from Europes' Jews sheds light on human nature. ( Unregenerate human nature, human nature without the gift of the Spirit of Christ). It doesn't matter what anyone wants to call your ethnicity; if you're suffering and you're seen as disposable, in particular conditions, the world and his wife ( most of them) will be quite happy to dispose of you, or stand by while someone does it. Simple as that. The Jewish Warsaw ghetto experience is one to observe. Here, a commentary.

Here, an awful old American film, which nonetheless reveals many aspects of the dreadful Nazi regime. Observe that it attempts to absolve America of blame for its late action, and makes out in one place, that America never believed the reports about the death camps, considering them too extraordinary to be true.

I have looked at human nature outlined by Jesus in the bible many times. He is the only historical figure who makes no mistakes at all about it. The New Testament records that at the height of his ministry on earth he rejected every self motivated accolade he received 'for he knew what was in man.'

Not everyone is capable of the type of persecution carried out by the Nazis and the like, though regretably many are. Yet it does seem that most people are capable of standing by with an 'I'm glad its not me' attitude when they see persecution in action.

Below, a Jewish Christian gives a beautiful testimony, a beautiful witnesses for Jesus the Messiah.



The guest Judaism scholar ( the opposing voice, also interviewed above) does well to raise the matter of the persecution of Jews by so called Christians of the past. He cites a certain Pope, and apparently implies that a number of Popes have been extremely abusive, ( in fact the abusive ones are well known antichrists ..so..it's is abit weak, his argument there. Those abusive Popes - and there were a number-have no socalled Christian supporters and certainly no Christian supporters; the book of Revelation thoroughly indicts Rome for its various acts). The argument he presents is a well worn classic, 'why should we respect your God when so many so called Christians don't?' and it stands up against degenerate, persecuting false Christians of the ages. It doesn't stand against the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and it won't stand up at the Judgement seat of Christ. Where, presumably the Lord will answer along the lines of....'Apostates are under Judgement. But what about you, and Me? What did I ever do to you? What did I do for you?'

Reason also suggests that the Lord's very aware that if followers of Jesus had done the evangelical job and reflected Christ they should have done, instead of allowing false Christians to keep pouring hate upon the Jews throughout the ages, (calling them "Christ killers" etc. etc.) all Israel would probably be converted by now.

The Warsaw ghetto; the remnant is rounded up for transporting to Treblinka and Auschwitz, up and running at that moment. Including the little boy and all the other children remaining.

It is well known that Hitler and his SS and their army were not Christians, this does not need explaining, obviously. ( Some propagandists try to state that they were 'Christians'.) The Nazis were extremely active against hat they called 'fundamental' Christians, those who believe the full bible who inevitably conclude that Jesus advocates humility, love, mercy, justice , grace and compassion.

Most people privately believe that Jesus is the Messiah. ( For sake, who else is? Or, who else, is he?) Yet this is not quite enough. You must risk the statement before men, as the Spirit leads, you must own him. Jesus said 'to whom much is given, much will be asked.'

After Jesus was crucified at their hands the prominent first century Jewish people persecuted the early Christians terribly, the facts are recorded.
Most of the Sanhedrin who presided over Jesus mockery of a trial never saw Jesus close up, never saw his eyes close, close enough to see whether they were the eyes of his mothers, never stopped in their anger and their scheming to see past all the pain they caused him.
They are not the only persecutors this world has seen. Far from it.

I wonder how some professed Christians will feel when trying to put forward the list of difficulties so many people presented with their 'persecuting ways' etc. etc. I think the Lord may say " Yes I told you to expect persecution and/or difficulty as a matter of course. People you complain of didn't have my Spirit. And you? Who did I entrust with the mission of showing my love, my compassion and my forgiveness ?"

And I wonder what sort of answers some people will try to give ( already have tried to give.)
(* The 'Judgement seat of Christ' which will evaluate/does evaluate our lives, is not the 'Great White throne Judgement where Christ also is depicted seated' of the book of Revelation. Everyone passes before the Judgement seat of Christ on passing on: believers in Jesus do not stand condemned before it , but Jesus will evaluate and show us our lives and the consequences of our actions.)

The British press followed the Warsaw ghetto and its fate specifically, as a sample type. There were over 700,000 inhabitants, it was vast. All were transferred to camps. The claim 'we didn't see it ' ( by those who stood by) was preposterous. The press were informed. Throughout Europe, the main roads and stations were a riot of commotion all the time.

I put up with the 'oh we didn't see it happening' style rubbish daily- in respect of what I endured for a year, beginning a couple of years ago. I won't go into detail about what I went through at that time, here. Many of the 'Wanted' notices and abuse pages that went up about me are still on the web. Perpetrators continue to shout and disclaim. Some deluded characters still tell themselves that it was nothing at all.

The Talmud specifically insists that every Jew who reads the New Testament for himself is cursed of God, and must be expelled from the Synagogue. That is exactly what the aforementioned Pope and his immediate successors and predecessors did in respect of people reading the New Testament in the Church. They forbade it. Church goers were denied access to the sacred New Testament scriptures, which were chained to the pulpit. This Talmud declaration explains one of the interviewer's statements on the video shown above, the 'May their names be praised'.... ( said about Christians- he refers evidently to false Christians); that is code speak for 'may they be cursed.'

Newcomers to the holocaust subject should be forgiven for at first doubting the extent of the Nazi atrocities towards the Jews on the 2nd world war. First, it is stupifying; second, the killing machine was extremely well organised and the extent of its ultimate capacity was efficiently hidden for some while. Those defending the authenticity of survivors stories in the beginning, unless they were comissioned reporters or SOE, risked having the "conspiraloon slur pie" flung in their faces. Nonetheless, the British press from the outset publicly concluded that plans against the Jews in Poland seemed very well organised and seemed to have long term intent.

Where have all the flowers gone?

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The memorial to the victims of the 7/7 bombings is unveiled in Hyde Park ( here.)

The photo above shows it in the best possible light, in a blaze of sunlight, but his is is an awful memorial, typical of the modern architecture cheat (and various Turner prize winners). It seems the artists commissioned had a quick look at Stonehenge, shoved afew steel planks into the ground as a model and rushed off to 'create'. ( Did they plan to use a few discarded train tracks?) Here, it looks grim the moment the sun's gone.

Another example here. Very grim. In the comments beneath article linked in , a variety of people express how they've taken offence at the sight of it.

This monument poignantly communicates how futile it is to expect anyone to feel that by a stain glass steel stuck into the ground any human soul can possibly be replaced, so, people feel it's achieved something?

And it's military, as if the departed are being obliged to stand to attention in a public manner, the stainless steel posts are uniform, which is off. (Some sort of spin off of the over involvement of police in the public mourning?)

Piccs here.

One million pounds for it. An utter waste of money. There's a starving world out there, and very many dying. (Many of them for want of funds from the West). None of the transparently beautiful people who died in 7/7 ( judging by their life stories) would have wanted this further display of collective madness (a product of false piety, hysteria, and sentimentalism.)

This horrible monument is not right. ( What happens when the rain and rust hits it?)

Would this monument remind you of anyone you personally knew, loved and respected? Or would you feel insulted?

What does this young girl take home with her from this memorial?

Whatever happened to the gardens that used to commemorate? A big garden feature, with a different flower garden for each one we lost in the London bombings, would have been just beautiful-with perhaps a central plaque for each, in each special garden? Or if designers really felt they had to use something evoking the train and track theme (which I would have thought people wouldn't necessarily want to see) then how about a tunnel covered with flowers running through the whole garden?

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And what about a fountain place, where people could regularly leave their tokens of peace and affection? The birds, the doves, would gather there.

The rust, the rain, inevitable neglect over time, doesn't seem to affect birds such as swallows, sparrows, doves, robins, jays. Not in a once well planned garden. They turn up in any case, they never neglect to.

Whereas if you create an institutionalised place, all you get are blackbirds, crows and ravens. You can see this anytime, walking round a prison garden. Blackbirds, crows and ravens are the only ones that venture into such places. Ravens in particular. (Other types of birds all perch behind the fence, they don't venture in.)

The Lord's provided all the materials for us to celebrate the lives of those we care for. They are often a reminder of how he also feels. It's not hard. A garden celebrated his resurrection, and he is risen, praise God.

Love to them all.

I printed this song once before. If you don't know this one, or this singer, you should. Here she is at the Operation Ceasefire concert in Washington DC 24/9/2005.

Katie Melua's 'Blowin' in the wind' is best.

The Telegraph are an absolute spectacle, aren't they. You can just hear that editorial: "Come one girls and boys I want a full report, get down to Hyde Park and praise that monument. Praise it, treat it like the Holy Grail, praise the thing and you can't go wrong." You can just hear it, ( raise eyes ceilingwards and keep it to yourself).

Here, perhaps the most unapologetically 'military' picture of the monument yet.

I wouldn't take any notice of the press claiming they're speaking for everyone. Here, just afew comments surface. People complain that the monument is 'inappropriate', 'ugly', 'art farty' and 'waste of money that could have been spent on the living'.

Beneath the article linked at the top of the page, commenters observing the memorial state:

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-Jason, I am grown up that's why I still remember countless British citizens, including children, being killed by the IRA and wonder why more recent victims of terrorists seem more deserving of a memorial!- Mark, South-East London

-Let the victims have a memorial by all means, just don't let it be this sort of hideously ugly rubbish; after all, we already have that pig's breakfast of a concrete sewer - sorry, memorial fountain to Diana. Why do people feel the need to spout such pretentious twaddle when discussing modern "art"?- The Gene Genie, Croydon

-How can ONE million £ be justified for this? You can build decent 15 houses for that. Someone is making a tidy profit out of this! P.S. There is a memorial plaque for a horse called Sefton that was killed as a result of the IRA mainland campaign.- Paul, London UK

-It was a tragic and horrific event but I am not sure a permanent memorial like this is needed. Should we do similar for every innocent shot or stabbed or in some other way killed through the greed, ignorance or politics of another? And I have to wonder if there is not a better way to spend £1,000,000 and remember these souls.

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Prince Charles speaks very well, by reports. (No I am not just saying that because he's the prince :-). He seems to really identify with those bereaved by atrocious attacks.)

It does seem to be a real opportunity missed -this monument- or I wouldn't make time to comment.

Michael Jackson / back soon

( This post was written before all the idolatry and media absurdity about MJ that's now going on.)

This is good:



Can you see those traces of Chaplin there? :-)

This one's a little more Amadeus. ( Below.) Michael was to choreography and dance what Mozart was to the requiem. And just as much of a precocious entity. You used to burst out laughing with surprise and delight at his stage moves, he liked that design.

Sometimes at two ends of the stage at once, almost, with clouds of smoke somewhere in between.
Why is no one mentioning the dance? I suppose we conclude that reporters are notoriously overweight (and dribble all over their t-shirts and trousers). (They are only a notch above worthless idle greedy lawyers, the ones who whinge and sue at the drop of their well kicked ass.) :-)



And he has everything to do with the modern dance routines, in case you never noticed.



Positive genius is the flip side of narcissism. :-)




" The Moon is shining, the Moon is walking. Come and see, the Moon is dancing."


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Hello, all's well, thanx for comments. Just enjoying sunshine, this time of year. :-). I want to do the' saved by grace' post, and I've been doing some extra reading. Really it's the most worthwhile thing you can ever read and understand, and I'm reluctant to write anything less than beautiful.

It is by grace we have been saved, through faith, and not by our works; the Lord Jesus has done it all. Taken the punishment for sin ( for everyone), and left satan ( the accuser of the brethren) defeated, with no case against us, if we believe. It is by grace we have been saved, through faith, that none may boast.

Do me a favour, show your love to homeless London while the sun shines. Your particular love. I will be back soon.

Blood of Eden

The Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, gave Jesus a scenario of a woman who married 7 men (sequentially, since they all died prematurely) in her lifetime. They asked whose wife she would be in heaven. Jesus answered:
"You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God. ..For in the resurrection they (men and women) neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." (Matthew 22:29-30)

' "And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed" (Genesis 2:8). Then the majestic words become quite specific: "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel [Tigris]: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates" (Genesis 2:10-14).'

Here, comment on the search for Eden, and the discovery of the location of a 'fossil river,' indicating the original location of the Tigris and the Euphrates via Landsat images from space. The land is very rich in material sources today.

Somewhere nearby, provided the elements have not disappeared from the earth, is the original dna pattern. Adam and Eve's 'dna'. Less than there is in your bloodstream.

Eve was taken from Adam.

'And the lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and he closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man he made into a woman, and he brought her to the man.' Gen 2: 21-13.

Adam and Eve were created adult, they had no childhood.

The cells in human bone marrow produce over a hundred trillion molecules of hemoglobin a second. Here's an outline suggestive of how Eve may have begun to come about in real time : active dna 'transcription', producing hemoglobin, the oxygen transport malloprotein in our blood. The action shown in the video below is also happening in every cell of our bodies, this minute.

'For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin. For I don't know what I am doing. For I don't practice what I desire to do; but what I hate, that I do. For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing.
For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.
For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice. But if what I don't desire, that I do, it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me. I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present. For I delight in God's law after the inward man, but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members. 'Who will deliver me from the body of death? Jesus Christ.' ( The Apostle Paul explaining that the believer placing their faith in Christ receives the help of the Holy Spirit, and walks in the Spirit, with a desire to obey the Lord).

Adam and Eve, made in the image of God, male and female, reflected God. They reflected the relationship between the Trinity. God. 'Hear O Israel, the Lord your God is one' : this biblical statement declared God is the only God, 'One', three in one. 'Elohim', used in the Hebrew book of Genesis, shows He is more than One in himself; it is plural. Love, humility and mutual submission is the nature of the perfect Trinity: they are 'three in one'; Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The Messiah as part of the Godhead was suggested in the Old Testament era many times (click). The Holy Spirit as the 'third member of the Trinity' with the Father and the Son was not fully revealed until the New Testament era. He is frequently cited in the Hebrew bible (Old testament.)

Why did God go ahead and create us, knowing all the while so many wouldn't spend eternity with Him- knowing so many would be lost ? How can He say he is Love, and go ahead and create us, aware of the destiny of so many? We understand the concept of good and evil, and we acknowledge that we've failed, that we've fallen short of perfect purity. That's not hard to grasp. Why did God go ahead and create those who'd be lost? It would have been better to have thought better of it, we say. We say we'd have done so.

We are fallen man, and that's the sort of question we ask, and the sort of statement we make. It's unconscious sin. We are often mistaken, not understanding the scriptures, or the power of God.

Between our intentions and our actions there's a space; our fallen nature; often, our sin. Not so Elohim. He's Love in action. In Him there is no hypocrisy, no darkness. The moment we were conceived in the mind of the Father, we existed, though we came into being as we know it later. As soon as were wanted, we became. There's no difference between the thoughts and the perfect deeds of the Heavenly Father. The moment the Trinity suggested 'Let us make man in our image', they agreed , and mankind existed. There was no 'going back', nor was 'going back' considered. Time as we know it here is an entity created by God for us for the purpose of giving us every opportunity possible to discover and enjoy God. It's less Less relevant than Love in action, which is God. Elohim. 'The Father Himself loves you'. ( Jesus.)

'And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.'

' ...God said ' Let us make man in our own image, according to our likeness; let them have dominion over the birds in the air and the fish of the sea, and over the cattle (herds) over all the earth and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. So God created man in His Own image; in the image of God he created them , male and female He created them.'

Adam and Eve walked in perfect love, their relationship emanated the nature of the Holy Trinity. Their relationship of mutual love, discovery and adoration perfectly echoed the relationship shared by the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. God is male and female; Adam's entity was suggestive of the Heavenly Father himself.

'And the Lord God said 'It is not good that man should be alone, I will make him a helper comparable to him.' ( Gen 18. ) Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. So Adam gave names to all the cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him.

This is the very first human being. He is simplicity, innocence and inexperience, and all he knows is God.

Whenever we see a lower intelligence ( the animal kingdom) doing such a thing as swim beneath the sea with a fleet of its kind all decorated in incredible colours, or paint with its trunk, or imitate two or three of our words, we express such extraordinary childlike joy of discovery, you'd think we'd discovered an intelligence higher than ourselves. That reaction we have is curious. We all express it. It seems it's nothing but delight that's something akin to the joy of discovery Adam probably expressed in the beginning when he saw all the created creatures for the first time; something innate.

Presumably since the first man saw every bird of the air and every fish of the sea, he was taken over the world. Why did God show Adam all this then?

God allowed Adam the progressive dawning 'there is no suitable helper who understands my life as I do' he allowed him joy of recognition on discovering 'Eve,' and experiential knowledge of the Lord's essential commandment; 'you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul and all your mind, and you shall love your neighbour as yourself'. And then the Lord invited him to submit to very deep sleep.

'Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man he made into a woman, and he brought her to the man.' Gen 2: 21-13.'

The gospel of John records Jesus referring to the Holy Spirit as the 'helper' and 'comforter', who 'guides us into all truth'.

New International Version (©1984) But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

This was the first woman's role: 'helper'.

Eve's voice, to Adam, was a reflection of the voice of the Holy Spirit of God.

And Adam said: ' This is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh, she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man.' (Gen 2: 23.) 'Therefore a man shall leave his mother and father, and be joined to his wife, and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed.'

It seems as if he must have been aware on some level, during the painless process when the rib from which Eve was created was removed from his body. A God given dream.

Adam and Eve have eternal life in their possession. In the garden of Eden are many trees. In the midst of the garden of Eden there are two; the tree of knowledge, and the tree of life. God has forbidden them both to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

'Then the Lord took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. And the Lord commanded the man, saying "Of every tree in the garden you may freely eat, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you may shall not eat of it, for the day you eat of it, you shall surely die.' ( Gen 2: 15-17).



Death means eternal separation from God, the source of life. That's what death is.

That's all and everything that hell is: eternal separation from God. God is Love, imagination, creation, light, comfort, relief, safety, innocence, beauty; life. Total absence of Him is manifest in a place named 'Sheol,', hell.

God allows people to choose where they'll spend eternity. With or without Him?


The tree of knowledge would enable Adam and Eve knowledge of good and evil; it would enable them to recognize and define satan in whatever form he might choose to appear.

And they were commanded not to eat of its fruit.
There's nothing wrong in knowing and discerning the difference between good and evil. God knows about good and evil. On our behalf, He defeated the evil that entered the world and blighted us , an act of his creationist Love.

'International Standard Version (©2008)
Now we see only an indistinct image in a mirror, but then we will be face to face. Now what I know is incomplete, but then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.' ( The Apostle Paul).

In desiring to spare Adam and Eve knowledge of good and evil the Lord was sparing them awareness of evil. Yet, given that he knew satan was watching for an opportunity, why didn't God allow Adam and Eve to eat of the tree of knowledge?

Adam and Eve might have then recognised satan for what he was as soon as he approached.

And they'd certainly have refused him. Yet there would have been no unconditional loyalty to God in such a well informed decision; there'd have been showing God no unconditional love, no true faith. Love for love's sake, faith for its sweet sake, that's what God hoped for, it's what he loves. The faith he asks us for now. Adam and Eve had a choice. They were asked not to taste the fruit of the tree. They could have made a decision to return God love for love, and stayed with Him.

Whether satan he watched the whole of creation from the shadows' isn't clear. We know that he saw how Adam and Eve reflected the nature of God. satan wanted to dissemble their relationship; it was a reflection of the Holy Trinity relationship. He wanted to get to Adam by getting Eve, Adam's 'helper' to be false. He wanted to implant in the voice of the helper whose voice reflected the voice of the Holy Spirit, a lie guided by himself.

'Now the serpent was more cunning than any other beast of the field, which the Lord God has made. And he said to the woman, ' Has God indeed said, you shall not eat of every tree of the garden?'

Eve's heard God's command about the tree of knowledge from Adam. She hasn't got the command first hand, we observe.

She responds. ' We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden, but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, 'you shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.'

Eve was communicated the commandment by Adam, who's told her not to go anywhere near it.

'Then the serpent said to woman 'You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.'

satan wanted Eve to embrace experiential evil (sin). He wanted her to ask 'Is God false?' while experiencing knowledge. He wanted her to take after his own nature. ( Sin). And he wanted Adam to to state 'yes, God is false' while experiencing knowledge.

Much more than that, he wanted God wounded, caused immeasurable sorrow, and if possible, destroyed. He knows Elohim. He knows the extent God is Love in action; he knows Him. (He does not comprehend Love, the nature of God, but he recognizes God's actions.) Here in the garden of Eden he knew there was a terrible penalty for sin: death. He'd just experienced his penalty for sin; expulsion from paradise ( from the presence of God). He was in a position to evaluate that if Adam and Eve fell, God would step in, and accept to take their penalty in their place. Of course He would. If God failed in love in action at any stage, he (satan) would prove God is not.

He'd decided to hold God to ransom. He'd tell God: 'You can have them back, can't you. But there's a penalty for sin, is there not. Either they pay, or you do.'

'So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.' ( Gen 3: 6-8).

'Nakedness' as described here in Gen 3 , aswell as being Adam and Eve's actual state, metaphorically represents guilt and spiritual shame, a sense of loss of self; Adam and Eve sensed that they'd lost their purity, lost their hold. They felt shame, and exposure to what they didn't know or understand; cold fear. Adam and Eve had never felt it before they ate. The first thing they did was try and hide from God.

Gen 3: 8-19

'And then they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid hid themselves from the presence of God among the trees of the garden.'

'Then the Lord God called to Adam, and said 'Adam, where are you?'

'So he said 'I heard your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.'

(In Gen 3 we see the simplest of confessions.)

Adam's been aware of the presence of God for some time; his memory of the joy of it; and intermittently, he's been hearing God's voice.

'And He said 'Who told you that you were naked? have you eaten of the fruit of the tree that I commanded you not to eat?'

And apparently Adam then recounted it. Presumably he trembled and wept . ' The woman who you gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.'

And the Lord God said to the woman, 'What is this you have done?'

King James Bible 1 Timothy 2: 14. 'And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.' ( Apostle Paul.)

And presumably the same distress and tears in Eve's simple confession . ' The serpent deceived me, and I ate.' Her confession is absolutely true.

There was a way back for Adam and Eve; through repentance and accepting their need for forgiveness and the coming Messiah's sacrifice. There's a way back for Adam and Eve's descendants, through the same ( if they lived BC) and if they lived after Christ on earth, like us, through the same repentance and accepting Messiah Jesus' Lordship in their lives.

There is no way back for satan:

'The the Lord said to the Serpent: ' Because you have done this, cursed are you more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; on your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life.'

The Lord promises mankind the Messiah as He continues:

'And I will put an enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.'

There is, here, a reference to the coming of the Messiah Jesus: 'There will be an enmity between you and the woman, between your spiritual descendants and hers ( believers in the Messiah) and he ( Jesus) shall crush your head, and you (satan) shall bruise his heel'. This verse refers to the crucifixion. Jesus would come to die. Jesus would defeat him who had the power of death ( satan) while satan would attack Him (crucifixion).

To the woman He said 'I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; in pain you shall bring forth children; your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.' In Gen the Lord turns to judge Adam for his wilful sin committed without any direct influence from satan: ' Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying "You shall not eat of it", cursed is the ground for your sake, in toil you shall eat of it, all the days of your life. Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, and you shall eat the herb of the field. In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken, for dust you are, and to dust you shall return'.

Elohim has begun again already; in the minds of Trinity, there's the preparation of a new heavens and a new earth, and it exists. Men and women will be given perfect, eternal bodies in the resurrection, and will be as the angels are.

Adam and Eve and their direct descendants named their children after God's promise of deliverance from him who had the power of death over them, and they comfort one another with the message of the coming Messiah, Jesus. The list of bible names in the transcript begin's with Adam's son, Seth, which means 'Appointed one.' Enosh, his son's name, means 'mortal', and his son, Kenan's name 'Sorrow.' His son Malahel's name means 'The blessed God.' He named his son Jared, which means 'Came down', and his son, Enoch's name, means 'teaching.' Methuselah means "His death shall bring; ' Lamech' means 'Strength' and Noah,' Comfort.'


'God Appointed' 'Mortal man' of 'Sorrow'
'The Blessed God' 'Came Down'
'Teaching'
'His Death Shall Bring'
'Strength' and 'Comfort' .

(Faith in the coming Messiah whose crucifixion would atone for their sins will have made Adam and Eve acceptable to God; so though suffering on earth as a consequence of sin they would be alive in the resurrection. 'And Abraham believed God, and God considered him righteous because of his faith.' )

Adam and Eve's pitiful, futile first reaction to their guilt and shame ( covering themselves with leaves) would be rectified by God . He slew an animal ( the first bloodshed in Eden) and covered them with animal skin. This gesture represented the coming Messiah as the 'Lamb of God'; His atoning sacrifice would cover our guilt; He would pay the price for our sin.

'And Adam called his wife Eve, because she was the mother of all living. Also for Adam and his wife the Lord God made tunics of skin, and clothed them.' ( Gen 3: 22)

There is another reference to the Holy Trinity ensuite:

' Then the Lord God said, behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever- Therefore th Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. So he drove out the man, and placed Cherubim at the East of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.' ( Gen 3: 23-24)

The Messiah was born of a virgin, as the Hebrew bible continued to prophecy and declare. First through the patriarchs, the twelve tribes of Israel, the prophets, and the prophetic and suggestive stories.

Adam sinned of his own volition; Eve sinned while being deceived. Jesus the Messiah became human, born of Mary, and not a product of the union between Adam and Eve; he was uncontaminated by original sin, untouched by the uncleanliness of sinful nature. God had spoken that the offspring of the descendants of Adam and Eve would both, return to dust- the appearance of the Messiah came through virgin birth.

In Isaiah's prophecy 'Emmanuel' refers specifically to Jesus Christ, born of Mary. 'Emmanuel', is a clear scripture reference to the coming Messiah.


"Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall bear a Son, and they shall call his name Immanuel" (Mtt 1:23).

By the laws of the Hebrew bible, ( Old Testament) the Messiah should be untouched by the dust Adam and Eve became in death, untouched by the original sinful nature. He would be the first resurrected from the dead. He would have to avoid sin himself and so avoid becoming as the first man and woman, which He did. The virgin birth and the Messiah's purity is defined in procedures relating to the Tabernacle. Without trace of sin, the Messiah, at liberty to do so, would redeem sinners by paying the price for their sin. He would thus defeat him (satan) who had the power of death over us.

In Mathew 22 Jesus defeats the Sadducees, once again speaking as the co author of the scriptures, and not as a reader merely.

'And some of the scribes replied ' teacher, you have spoken well. ..And after that they didn't dare as him anymore questions.'

(It is unclear whether the scribes were delighted that Jesus had defeated the Saduccees, or whether the scribes, having gathered with the Sadducees against Jesus, were defeated as the Sadduccees were, accepting their defeat. The latter seems more likely.)

back soon

Hello, sorry I haven't been around. Thankyou for sending comments in. All posts that mention the Lord Jesus Christ are no-comments in the comments box posts ( incase you hadn't noticed.) (I'm relenting and printing a few comments :-) I am just trying to avoid the rowing that goes on in respect of the Obama question on some blogs. Plus, comments that speak against the Lord Jesus will not be put through, this is a matter of my faith).

All is well, more posts are on their way. Looking around the Internet I see the OAC blog posts have recently degenerated somewhat into stereotype NWO conspiracy blog posts ( but I'll keep it linked as he'll probably get his act together again); stick to scripture when studying global governance. (When that blogger was Obama's 'New Order' focused, it was good, refreshing. Give him a chance. :-) )

I do not think 'Swine flu' is 'faked in line with secret government agendas as an excuse for martial law'. (Or that modern Holy Spirit miracles/answers to prayer going on the world over are 'faked by nasa'...as some people are suggesting... no..... :-) )

I've seen the recent attack on the 7/7 conspiracy theorists around the place, thanks ( I am not one, I think Islam is a major player in global conflict and political manœuvre): this was my previous comment on the 7/7 controversies.

Back soon. Just flipping through the Internet here...
Below... an interesting expos on world tender that boasts flagrant pictures of the 'whore of Babylon riding the beast' described in the bible's book of Revelation; coins in Europe in particular- the expos shows coins in recent times, and the present day. There are also shown a few interesting pictures of early Roman and progressive Vatican coins, upon which historicist scholars feel the 'whore of Babylon' prophesied in the book of Revelation, is depicted. (This video forms par of a series of seven, none except the one here come recommended as they depart from interest in the bible and focus on pointless conspiracy theories etc.)



The statue of Liberty, visibly holding a golden cup, and being 'crowned' with seven 'horns', is also thought to have been designed in keeping with the bible's Revelation prophecy about the 'whore of Babylon' mentioned in the bible's book of Revelation.

And here's something that looks like abit of progress from the futurist camp, on the Barack Obama 666 question.





If he were living and prospering as he now is in the days of the 'Abibaal' generations described in scripture ( scripture points outlined here, 'The Prophet Ezekiel and the Prince of Tyre') Barack Hussein Obama would most certainly have been named ' King Barack Hussein Obama' by the Hebrew bible. The book of Revelation prophecies do not name chief end time rulers who are not thought of as royalty with titles such as 'President', Pope, etc. etc. Dominant political rulers are referred to as 'Kings.'

No one forgets that ... VICARIS FILII DEI / VCARIVS FILII DEI /Vicarius Christi ( the Vatican Pope's title) adds up to '666' in Hebrew Gematria. ( This is one of the historicists' strongest points, here). ( Here, everyone discusses it at length). As did the title of the Roman Emperor Nero(n) Caesar, who persecuted the early church and the Jews of Jerusalem in around AD 70. Adolf Hitler, who strove for a 'World Order' is (by heinous acts on a global scale) the best case for the 'penultimate antichrist figure' so far etc. etc. This blog looked at looked at how continuous, increasingly apparent prophecy fulfillments AD ( in respect of the antichrist) perhaps signify satan's obsessive attempts to outdo scripture prophecy by raising a penultimate/world significant 'antichrist' demagogue before the final time outlined in scripture. People have asked whether Barack Hussein Obama may or may not be the penultimate false Messiah, given that he is heading up an established 'World Order' in what appear to be the 'very last days'.

The discoveries people continue to pour out would tend to confirm our suggestion that both the historicists (their case here) and the futurists have got relevant points and a good case; ( here's a few more points from the historicists' about blasphemous and absurd claims made by various Popes) there have, it seems, been increasing fulfillments of Revelation prophecy.

I wonder what the different camps find so hard about this scripture,

New American Standard Bible (©1995) Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. Here.

The Lord Jesus, Messiah and perfect prophet, spoke of end time events as being 'birth pangs', and said that when prophesied end time events start to appear closer and closer together ( presumably to coincide with prophecy fulfillment events happening on a global scale) then the time of his second coming is near.

... re post below, 'British Police display abusive conduct'.....this will make you laugh, I've cut and paste it from my comments moderation section for you.

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Speaking from experiance, I have found the police to be helpful and good people often having the same view as the protestors, there scared and only human that women hit a police officer an offence she could and would be arrested for any other time, the police officer bearly tapped her and the other man was provoking them and assaulted a police officer and from the sounds was having ago at the police G20 has been blown out of proportions. FREE MEDIA IS A GOOD THING, BUT FREE MEDIA TAKING A BIAST STANCE GOES AGAINST THE IDEAL OF A FREE MEDIA.

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Before, and while, persistent police abuses of many kinds were committed against me I was not indulging in any kind of rioting or gathering that might be perceived as potentially troublemaking. I was simply recording detail of what was being done to me, and reporting it on my blog, in accordance with Freedom of Speech law of this country. I knew, at the time, that it was important to record everything.



Police are bing accused of more abuses by G20 protesters and media. The recent abuse is clearly a reflection of police behavior as a whole. ( 'Shame on you' is being shouted by various protesters. Some of them regulars, no doubt.) Here's another video, showing police piling in to peaceful protesters.

Police seem indifferent to the death recently experienced at their hands during the G20 protests. We now learn that Mr. Tomlinson, the police victim who died, suffered abdominal bleeding rather than a heart attack, and that a police officer is likely to be up on a manslaughter charge. Here.

Why is a manslaughter charge being expected, rather than a murder charge? The CPS do not appear to be releasing an explanation about this.

Where do abusive police get their confidence from when they're not getting it from media strategists, British courts and abusive members of the British public? ( Each other, of course. And abusive puerile members of the CPS and their associates.)

Mr. Tomlinson, a poor man who died during the G20 protests, was an innocent bystander. He may have been a vulnerable adult. The video below, obtained by the Guardian, shows him being beaten and assaulted by police, then collapsing to the ground.

The very revealing video here (Mr Tomlinson). Viewing recommended.

Police attempted to state that protesters had stood in the way of their obtaining medical aid for the victim Tomlinson; however, it later transpired that police probably wounded him to the point that they caused him to later die, and then did nothing while he died, even though he requested their help, and tried to explain his predicament to them, in what looks like a very gentle manner.
Having violently abused him, police refused him help, and he died.
This sort of incidence is not untypical of British police.

As for police being concerned about anyone's medical health, observe the video below, which seems to speak for itself. A police medic appears to be bashing his baton about as if there were no tomorrow.



Many British police appear to be programmed to despise and abuse accused people whom they do not know, whose cases they frequently do not investigate. Their 'training' , socalled, usually translates into subjecting individuals of all backgrounds to varieties of mental and physical abuse. This abuse is regularly evidenced in day to day police behaviors. Often regular police attitudes spill over into abuse of other members of the public: poor Mr. Tomlinson was simply a man who found himself near a rowdy scene.

It often transpires that the worse thing a genuinely vulnerable person can do, is go to a British policeman for help. Often enough. British Police enjoy abusing the vulnerable.

British appear often to police act in the knowledge that they are likely to pass their 'versions of events' off to biased British courts, to prejudiced and abusive magistrates who are all to often unchallenged by a prejudiced British public, who are encouraged by an abusive media system that enjoys exercising vindictive behavior towards vulnerable defendants ( and anyone else it can find) whenever it can.

A fleeting visit

Had no time to write up the posts I wanted to. I want to do the 'Genesis' ( Creationism) post, the 'Saved by grace' post, an essential scripture message being underlined again and again to the Churches at the moment- a post on the kind of faith that God is looking for in these 'end times'. I am currently attending a bible college some evenings, it covers a good deal. ( Where no one is obliged into any particular end times view, incidentally.) Had a good conversation with another student; no matter what your 'end time' view, if you are born again, in Christ, you are going to heaven. ( Presumably, as a Christian, you're seriously trying to understand the full scriptures.) The Merciful God, Jesus, the Father and the Holy Ghost, loves you.

We've been looking at the book of Job, in bible college; looking at thematter of how it can happen that sometimes, satan plain old attacks and wrecks with people's lives when people of faith haven't sinned or done anything to invite such an attack. Bad stuff happening to good people. What's that about? We came up with some really interesting answers. There are very interesting aspects to the book of Job, and good explanations clarify understanding. :-) And they're good.

There's also been a chance to have a look at 'strongholds,' on the 'micro' and 'macro' level- what's it all about really? Some very good answers. ( Teaching from the other Church I told you about, both evangelical / Spirit lead churches.)

Given the recent goings on in London, a reminder of the Blair Obama situation here, with a few additions re Rome and various scholars' interesting opinions.

In the meantime, Barack Obama turns up in London for the G20 summit. A good overview here, no need to repeat anything.
Also here, finance topix. (These world leaders , all envisaging a NWO, apparently- Brown in particular-are all coming to an agreement in the space of an hour or so; what this signifies, we'll all have to see).




World banks would not be in their current crisis had they not fleeced the average Western individual to the point that he can no longer pay his way or be lent any money by their usurious selves.
£38.00 approx deleted from every man or woman's account for every bounced check or returned standing order worldwide for example!

And they've managed to near break themselves, these world banks. And some people are still saying that's nothing to do with the way they've treated God's laws, or his prophecies.

An article here, "Obama throws the USA under a bus at the G20 summit." The result of the G20 meeting is that Britian and the USA are to become the world's biggest borrowers ever. (In a nutshell.)
The promise in the scriptures of Deuteronomy for a nation that obeys God is 'you will lend to many nations, and you will borrow from none.'

Middle class protesters are out in great numbers- what a wonderful world we might live in, had protesters ever turned out to defend the world's poor in such large numbers.

Look at the fervor with which they now plead for their own business and current bank accounts. According to one report, a number have apparently turned violent in their dismay, else they're unable to cope with the April sunshine .
Further news bulletins state that police have begun numerous assaults and ructions behaved with inappropriate force and violence (article here: "rioting police".)




Obama has come over with his security car, famously nicknamed 'the beast', in tow. At Gordon Brown's offer of world renowned stylish British security, he turned up his nose.

'Sneaked photographs of Barack Obama’s new limousine, still missing its final coat of black paint, show a hefty, customised Cadillac that can supposedly withstand a rocket-propelled grenade, or as one news agency joked, a “direct hit by an asteroid”.'
:-)

Dear me the press do not spend much time reading their bibles. :-)

'With eight-inch thick doors and diesel engine, the “Beast” flies in the face of the green commitments of a politician who drove a Ford hybrid in his past life.'

(I love this scripture verse here, incidentally.)





The posters protesters are using are graphic: 'Capitalism isn't working.' Well no, it isn't, and we were never advised it:

American King James Version
......Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof. (the words of Jesus).


That is the complete opposite of world capitalism, is it not. So's that whole chapter. We need to check ourselves out, the extent we are really walking in this way the Lord Jesus advises.

The OAC blog notes Gordon Brown's speech 'A New World Order is emerging.'

It transpires that there's been a unanimous agreement between G20 summit politicians to do 'whatever is necessary' to recharge the world economy. As a result, trade has been more buoyant apparently.

Here, a very interesting article on the civilian military that Obama is proposing. There is already a draft bill in the USA.

"The Senate last night rubber stamped a nightmare domestic draft bill that legislates mandatory national service and creates an “army” of at least 7 million civilian enforcers working at the the behest of the government, while also containing language that threatens to ban free speech and the right to protest."



This cheesy victory 'v' sign these business and political moguls are coming up with is difficult to put up with at this time isn't it. Barack Obama made one for the press yesterday, just as if he'd managed to boost the economy without heading up further resolutions to exploit misplaced public confidence. Richard Branson's 'v' is particularly smarmy, always has been. ( Can't find a demo for the present). He has authorized a series of Virgin ads all over the London Metro mocking and deriding Christians and others who are concerned about recent world events, which tell everyone they should 'Lighten up and take it easy.'



Instead of acting the prat, he should be making serious efforts to give to the poor and asking God for forgiveness and mercy.

Safe Journey Jade

'Clifford said that Goody and her children Bobby, 5, and Freddy, 4, were recently christened and that Goody has been using the experience to explain her future death.

"She's described that as 'through Jesus mommy will be in touch with you,'" Clifford said.'

Here, the full post.

Safe Journey, Jade. :-)

'No one comes to me unless the Father draw him, and whoever comes to me I will never turn away.' ( Jesus.)

Having endured an immense, very lengthy campaign against Jade Goody during which so may forms of hatred were poured out on her and all manner of words spoken against her, all of which the Heavenly Father saw, and having endured a terrible disease, she is going to heaven. ( Oh of course she is!)

The Heavenly Father saw what was being done to Jade and drew her to Jesus.

Thankyou Heavenly Father, for being who, and what, you are.

Hello :-)

Sorry I've been absent, just very busy in London, plus, going to two churches a lot of the time :-) people connect up across London.....there is a lot to do here. I have got a few new blog- posts brewing, as indicated.

America and the end time questions are not being discussed much at the moment ( not nearly so much since the American elections debates began to die down) chez moi. Plus, it's not the focus of my Christian life, obviously.

..had a quick look around the Internet and saw a youtube video ( below) on Gordon Brown and Barack Obama's discussions about a New World Order on the OAC blog . Obama and Brown 'agree a New World Order', while the national UK newspapers comment on inconsequential London political activists and radicals of various kinds who vaingloriously insist that they're making a difference to the future of the proposed 'surveillance society' and that there's plenty of time to halt the apparently emerging police type state and surveillance processes provided they personally make enough noise. They don't seem to mind what they do to make noise, either.

Protesting about draconian procedures that governments apparently intend to implement worldwide is good, ( and should be prayerful and peaceful) but be very careful about those who use the current international dilemmas to promote themselves or recruit to their various causes.

When you highlight a case that epitomizes injustices experienced by many, and succeed, you start to make a big difference. Form political factions rail against departmental corruption, wrongdoing and ineptitude and yet defend no one who needs it when it comes to it, and you make no difference. (This is what many of these protesting ( non Christian) activists currently seem to be doing.)

Help someone who's victim of a corrupt Justice system even when you may get the attention of no one, and you have the blessing of God. Remember that. :-)

Gordon Brown is running out so fast after Obama's apparently announced NWO and global finance plans he'll give himself a permanent stitch. The way he's keeping up this determined pose, you'd almost think Britain was the only country in financial quandry -and that he had no desire to display 'diplomatic prowess' and save his own political skin at the same time, (having been the man to walk Britain into its current financial predicament). Only recently he was making out that a 'New World Order' ( involving 'globalisation') was not what he was about ( his own words.) Now we see the video below. CNN are keen on the term 'New World Order', in fact the terms 'globalisation' and 'global society' seem to be at the fore:



I've also been looking at Freemasonry, the healing available in Christ for descendants of Freemasons and ex Freemasons, with a look at healing for people who expose the Freemasons' secrets in any way. Freemasons take a very active stance, both personal and spiritual, against families and individuals who oppose and expose them. In advance, according to their own documents. A big subject there. Interesting and relevant to many.

Here: 'Let Freemason Judges keep Masonic secrets', states Lord Bingham ( a while back).


"THE JUDICIARY should be able to keep their membership of the Freemasons a secret, the country's most senior judge argued yesterday, in a clear snub to government attempts to open up the "brotherhood".

Lord Bingham, the Lord Chief Justice, told a committee of MPs that there was no reason for judges to declare their membership because there was no evidence to show they had been corrupted by their connections with the secret society."

Here, below, the dollar bill, which visibly depicts Freemason symbols and the Freemason's 'grand Architect of the Universe', evidently. 'In God we trust' is written beside the Masonic emblem on the dollar bill. Here is a selection of general quotes from the Freemasons that overtly state that 'Lucifer' is their 'god' or that state that 'Lucifer' is on a level equal to God, which of course is false .

The Masons do many absurd things in their rites and rituals, but their evidently ungodly and corrupt society has worked its way to strong world power.

The dollar bill carries a well known Freemason's emblem, an emblem of the 'Masonic Illuminati', the pyramid and illuminated eye that feature in Masonic literature relating to 'Harim Abiff' and the higher Freemasonry 'degrees'. According to scripture, no one who respects God should engage with such a sect as the Freemasons. Freemasonry is clear satanism from the scripture perspective. ( If you're in any doubt about that read the studies of the rites and rituals and the Harim Abiff related commentaries in the Lodge literature.)

The United States of America thinks nothing of trading using the Freemason sign on the 'One' dollar bill every day.

Here, the 'render unto Caesar things that are Caesar's and render unto God things that are God's' Wiki page. I don't think Jesus was being ambiguous about his answer to the pharisees, it was perfect.

A global financial system has existed quite a while, operant to a certain extent; the dollar in dominance; it's simply never been formalized, or labeled 'global financement' before these days.

Not good enough, Barack Obama indicates; 'the entire system must be modernized'. ( or words to that effect, see his discussions with Gordon Brown here displayed.) This coming 'modernization' needs to be observed. Along with the surveillance society being discussed, the police state we are thought to be moving towards. Here's an article: 'spying on sixty million people doesn't add up.' (Guardian). (I would suggest that this reporter's authors 'logo' is ignored....! :-) )

Over the world, 'strongholds' of satan, as they are defined by the Church, seem to be making a stand. Repeat episodes of political unrest, violence and corruption appear in diverse places, dominated spiritually by what the Apostle Paul named ' powers and principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places (click for scripture)'. An indication that trouble's ready to go off on a greater scale, worldwide?
Will there be an increased global demand for a period of world peace that'll turn out, eventually, to be 'false peace'?

The Northern Ireland and mainland Britian troubles have reared their head up high again, as if out of nowhere. Dreadful acts of hatred have been committed, and the innocent have suffered. Today it is thought that a bomb may be in Northern Ireland, or on its way to mainland Britain.


' "The red light went up on Monday and there is a panic on that the next thing to happen is a bomb somewhere in the north," a veteran security officer told one newspaper.'

In Germany a school's been hit by a teenage gunman on a riot. 'Are you all dead?' he kept shouting, until he got no answer; later he shot himself- according to today's papers. Here, the full article and video of the scene. An appalling act, evidently evocative of Hitler's Germany.


"The gunman, a 17-year-old former pupil named as Tim Kretschmer, entered the school at about 0930 (0830 GMT) in black combat gear and began shooting.

He fled in a stolen car, but killed himself after being cornered by police. "

Will it all make for more push for an unprecedented surveillance society or type of 'police state' within the corridors of power?

A trip down memory lane with Sinead.

Some of the the song Sinead sang is deliberately suggestive of the possible voice of Mary Magdalen who saw the risen Jesus first. Else it's suggestive of the angels who Mary met there. It is a spiritual warfare song, some of it, no question. ( A la Sinead. :-) ). So is this one, there's an express demonstration of 'strongholds' in the beginning, good song.

'I never washed these clothes, I want to keep the stain, your blood to me is precious, nor would I spill it in vain.' An apparent reference to the power in the blood of victorious Jesus, who 'defeated him who had the power of death.' ( satan.)

'Oh you lost, you lost all.' The 'Oh you lost all' would be directed at satan, obviously. And rightly so ;-)

Or do the words say 'Oh you lost hope', which would mean they are directed at the four in the film 'In the Name of The Father' who gave up on ever getting an answer to prayer about breaking the 'stronghold' of corruption in the British Justice system they were held by. ( Checked the lyrics, the song reads 'Oh you lost all.')

And some of the song just refers to aspects of the four's story. The first verse. The 'hard man' suggests the man of British/anglo Justice system corruption, the man who 'perverts Justice for the poor and the needy' whose ways are forbidden in the book of Exodus the bible.

In the song video Sinead seems to appear in the role of an angel. She makes a note 'return to earth' on the piece of paper in front of her. :-)

It's worth mentioning how many seem to have lost the plot while objecting to the proposed government police and surveillance powers-many of them quoting the four's case. Carrying on with meetings and riots for their own purposes and causes. It seems Giuseppe would have hated that, and spoken against it. He would have called it idle and troublemaking, it seems he was a man of prayer. From what we see, from what we read.

The Lord can help with peaceful protests.

It wasn't the demonstrations, rows or marching that freed the Guilford four ( whose advocates appear to be being quoted by a number of self motivated activists), it was this and this looks very much like answered prayer to me.

The Lord helps the poor and the needy against the wealthy Justice corrupter. He does not bless those who're carrying on in self seeking and political factions. ( See the scriptures.) Look to yourselves.

Here, earlier post 'the economy and the trust principle'.

Here, a blog reports on the latest picture of Obama, holding a sheep in his arms. Far out, far out. For this day and age, as far as out can be. We were supposed to be done with false Messiahs in the Western world.

Another one on said blog, official CIA predictions for Israel.

This book here looks to the point ( in respect of expressed historicist and futurist views on the fulfillment of Daniel and Revelation prophecies.)

Got questions asks the Barack Obama question, and speaks very well. They leave out the 'Tyre' scripture that's a cause of interest tho.

Bravo

Mr Clifford said Jade Goody had told him (in respect of her children): "I want them to try to get to know Jesus because if they get to know Jesus, hopefully they'll be able to keep in touch in the future." BBC comment here.

The word is she has repented and accepted Jesus as Lord and her saviour. That's enough (click). If it is the case. She is apparently reading her bible daily.

The most important thing she can do at this time is talk to Jesus. God bless little Jade who (if it is the Lord's decision that she leaves this world) will be incomparibly above and beyond her pointless critics ere long, which will leave them feeling exposed for their pointless judgementalism and very silly indeed.
I hope she can relax and enjoy the love of God at this time.

I see Jade and Jack as two very young people who made some real mistakes, as so many young people do, who've been hit by a huge tragedy, which they've handled with simplicity and dignity.

The wedding and the request that her children get to know the Lord appears to be a gesture towards the Lord on Jade's part.

Jade has highlighted her cancer situation with humility, dignity and care, and helped millions of women. Her simple self effacement has brought the specific cancer problem out into the open 'the Jade effect' and she's raised awareness.

Jack Straw should show compassion and reason more often.

This morning we prayed for a lady with cancer in our Church. There was a specific word for her to come forward and be prayed for. It was a beautiful service, the Lord communicating the healing nature of his Holy Spirit.

I haven't forgotten previous posting promises but have been very busy :-)

In respect of Jade's comment, the bible forbids all attempts to communicate directly with those who have passed on, but there is everything good about asking the children get to know Jesus so that she and they may meet up again in heaven one day. (I personally can't see anything wrong with asking Jesus to take a message or a word to anyone who you believe is in heaven, but this must obviously go through prayer to Jesus specifically.)

Jade is also reported to have said ' I want my children to get to know Jesus so they will know their Mummy is in heaven.'

Tony Blair and Barack Obama

Here. The Obama Blair partnership. Horrible, for sure. Tony Blair has been correctly labelled a chameleon in it, by the press. They should have gone further and identified him as a greedy and deceiving apostate which is what he is. Apparently.

If Tony Blair were a Christian he would have commented on the fact that Barack Obama is a false Messiah of global significance with 'a catalogue of blasphemy' behind him (who can't quote one scripture correctly, who does not quote scripture without horribly distorting it, most of the time) who should not be being 'commended' for his treatment of the sacred scriptures under any circumstances.

Tony Blair is a strong advocate, we learn, of the "New World Order" Barack Obama has called for; he has always been a very strong proponent of an authoritarian regime and draconian security measures such as the micro chip surveillances that are being introduced and other justifiably unpopular measures, such as Guantanamo; all the authoritarian measures that president Bush stood for, essentially. He was a strong advocate of the chip identity card system which now seems to be expected to appear in Britain ( according to reports.)


The political greed of Tony Blair apparently knows no limits. Likewise, his determination to take so many people for simpletons. ( And why not, when after thousands of years of human history they dance and clap and weep for a world significant false Messiah en masse at the first cue.) He converted to Catholicism because he ( apparently) thought that aligning himself with the then new ( and still very unpopular) Pope would create for him political influence and some sort of 'guaranteed spiritual standing'. He liked the idea of photo shots of himself with Pope Benedict. (Confession of sin, repentance and salvation through Christ Jesus isn't good enough for Tony Blair, he apparently thinks). The spirituality in a pose and facade such as Tony Blair demonstrates is not of God. No need to elaborate.

The current Pope hoodwinks Tony Blair's type of belief system instead of confronting it. For political purposes. That is obvious apostasy ( for the sake of political expedience).

Tony Blair quickly spotted an opportunity with Barack Obama who Christians have observed 'with grave misgivings'. He would, he thought, attempt to save Barack Obama's face by helping him to pass himself off to the completely uninformed as a practicing Christian and Barack, in turn, would turn to Tony Blair for assistance with many of his PR moves while promoting him in the political sphere: they have a deal. It is thought that Blair may be Obama's ambassador for 'the peace by which many may be deceived and destroyed'; Tony Blair is Middle East Peace envoy for the United Nations. (click). His candidacy for 'President of Europe is also considered here in this link.

'On 27 June 2007, he officially resigned as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom after ten years in office, and Blair was officially confirmed as Middle East envoy for the United Nations, European Union, United States and Russia. Blair originally indicated that he would retain his parliamentary seat after his resignation as Prime Minister came into effect; however, he resigned from the Commons on being confirmed for the Middle East role, by taking up an office for profit. President George W. Bush had preliminary talks with Blair to ask him to take up the envoy role'.

'During the first nine days of the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict, Tony Blair spent Christmas and New Year with his family, and attended an opening of the Armani store at Knightsbridge.'

Below: Blair underscores the emergent 'New World Religion' ethos, suggesting that 'all religions lead to God' and need to blend together. He demonstrates that his beliefs are world politics centred and nothing to do with the faith involved in discipleship to Jesus. Tony Blair denies the value of Jesus, who said 'I am the way, the truth and the life, and no one comes to the Father except through me.'



Have nothing to do with Blair's version of Christianity, he is false. Stay away from him, from everything he stands for. Switch off all media when he appears if necessary. He's advocating the way of death, spiritual death, which is being cut off from God for eternity. He's also smooth and smarmy. You've got other things to do than be annoyed by a smooth and smarmy apostate. :-) ( Jesus said, 'by their fruits you shall know them'.)

A quick look at the BBC comment on a Revelation prophecy as interpreted by some scholars who name themselves 'historicists': ( it's abit ridiculous for the BBC to suggest that emperor Nero was a 'hate figure' for Chrsitians: he was a persecuting Roman despot and lunatic.)

'Symbolism of the seven-headed beast

'The infamous seven-headed Beast that rises from the sea demanding to be worshipped symbolises Rome. By John's time seven emperors had ruled over Rome and Rome was known as the city of seven hills.

The number of the Beast - 666 - has always puzzled Christians and led to many speculations about who this could be. Scholars now believe that this was a matter of numerology, a popular puzzle in ancient times. The letters of a name were ascribed numerical value and added up to give a number.

The name of the Emperor Nero adds up to 666.

Historians believe that Nero's persecution of Christians in Rome may have entered the consciousness of early Christians, making him a hate figure.

However, evidence from ancient manuscripts indicates that 666 may not have been the number of the Beast.

In the late 19th century, British archaeologists working at the site of the Egyptian city Oxyrhynchus discovered a cache of papyri that were brought to Oxford, where academics have been working their way through them ever since. One of these papyrus fragments is of the Book of Revelation and gives the number of the Beast as 616.

Working on the same principle of numerology, academics work out 616 to indicate the Emperor Caligula. Caligula had had a statue of himself erected in the temple in Jerusalem, greatly offending Jews. If John indeed was a Jew from Palestine he would have known this.'

The Blair -Obama event is interesting in respect of certain bible prophecies that some scholars believe to be about the transgressions of Vatican Rome. And in respect of Vatican Rome's ( undoubted) contributions to the 'New World Order' that Barack has overtly called for.

'And the ten horns which thou saw are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. (Revelation 17:12-14)

'I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. (Rev 17:3)'

There is the 'woman sitting on a scarlet coloured beast', 'the whore of Babylon'. In a subsequent Revelation description, she is described as 'seated on many waters' ( a reference to peoples, multitudes, nations and languages according to the scripture) and she's named 'mystery, Babylon the great, mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.'

Many scholars suggest that the Revelation image 'the whore of Babylon' represents apostasy. Others , extending this, suggest she represents Catholic Rome and the Vatican and accuse Roman Catholicism of complete apostasy. She is described in the book of Revelation as being drunk on the blood of the martyrs, the saints killed. Many cite the Papal edicts that blasphemously attempt to replace the authority of Christ by the Popes' ( rendering these Popes 'false Christs'). Rome's history of corrupt Popes and the extraordinary persecution of so many Christians amounted to the deaths of many millions of martyrs over a relevant period. (We will look at this more in detail soon in a separate post). Writers make focused allegations about corrupt Popes of the historical past and their acts and also comment about the popular and gentle John Paul II.

My understanding at the time of researching Rome's terrible past is that Pope John Paul II did indeed ask for full forgiveness for Rome's past acts.

One writer makes an important observation here about one of John Paul's remarks:

'In a 4/3/91 letter written by Pope John Paul II, addressed to "my beloved Muslim brothers and sisters," the Pope said, "I close my greeting to you with the words of one of my predecessors Pope Gregory VII, who in 1076 wrote to Al-Nasir, the Muslim ruler of Bijaya, present day Algeria: 'We believe in and confess one God, admittedly in a different way, and daily praise and venerate him, the creator of the world and the ruler of this world.'" The name Allah, was not invented by Muhammad, but was the name of a pagan god, long known and worshiped in the Middle East. In pre-Islamic days, Allah worship was on par with Baal worship, both originating in the Babylon region and both being Astral religions: the Sun, Moon, and Stars were the objects of worship. An Allah idol was one of some 360 idols in the Kabah, the sacred building at Mecca, now containing the famous black stone, a place of Islamic prayer and pilgrimages., the place to which the faithful turn to pray, again not new to Islam, but a practice of very ancient origins. The tribe into which Muhammad was born was devoted to the god Allah, Allah being the personal name of the Moon god. That the Pope worships a god other than the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ ought not surprise us when one considers that both Islam and Romanism come from the same Babylonian stock. (Source: 8/94, Perilous Times.)'

There is evidently more to 'Babylon' than is written into either of the interpretations of the Revelation image the 'whore of Babylon' cited above. The term 'Babylon' in the book of 'Revelation' infers the history and legacy of the world's unrighteous politics, idolatry, unrighteous commerce and profit.... etc. ( Babylon's dispensation). You can investigate 'Babylon' all over the web. ( Nebuchadnezzar was the great monarch of the Babylonian empire BC 625-538 ).

There is room to suggest that in the very 'last days', as a global government emerges incorporating the old forms of world governance inferred by the term 'Babylon', the separate nations, represented by ten rulers, ( politicians or alternative representatives with experience in politics who are rulers but have no Kingdom) will be sacrificed to make way for the new global governance. This suggestion is apparently being made by some. (Bible students present a number of different interpretations on this scripture.)

REV 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast,these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked,and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.REV 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will,and to agree,and give their kingdom (on earth) unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

'Amid unceasing and almost countless fluctuations the Kingdoms of modern Europe have from their birth to the present day averaged 10 in number. They have not since the breaking up of old Rome been united into one single empire, not one whole like the United States of America' wrote a prominent 'historicist view' proponent a decade ago. However this picture,-with the New World Order called for and emerging- looks a little different now. Barack and his administration seem determined to make a 'global empire'.

A great global financial crash/disaster to be experienced by 'Babylon' in the 'last days' is outlined in the first part of Revelation chapter 18; it's outlined directly after the scripture quoted above.

People have observed that currently, the global markets seem poised for a crash / disaster, just as the American President prepares this 'New World Order' ( global government) that he has called for. Many people are saying that this financial crash/disaster has already occurred , (or is already occurring).

Earlier we had a look at the sonamed 'futurist view' on certain 'beasts of Revelation' prophecy verses (click), we looked at these with reference to the Barack Obama question.

Tony Blair and his formal link to Roman Catholicism and his own personal apostasy is a matter to observe in context perhaps.

More later ( and on many other subjects) when I have a moment. :-)

Here, an article: 'The Top of the Mountain'. Contains an analysis of Barack Obama's relative position ( politics and the bible) and an analysis in context of the Obama campaign song 'American Prayer.'

'American Prayer' , the song, comes across as a vast propaganda excersise, and a celebratory shout for a false Messiah who will have world governance (he's calling it a New World Order). It may be seen as indicating that after two thousand years of raising antichrist demagogues, false Messiahs/false Christs, incorporating many that came out of Rome (all in line with all the faithful warnings from Jesus) satan has got a 'penultimate false Messiah', the 'son of perdition' , the 'man of lawlessness' to 'the top of the Mountain'.. this is what the futurists are saying. ( A political mountain, iswhat the song clearly intends. Not the 'mountain of the Lord', which is the mountain to which Dr Martin Luther King referred in his speech). This would be this author's opinion (click).

Satan is sometimes named in the bible as 'the god of this age', in other words he dominates the Zeitgeist of whichever era that persuades people not to believe in God. The ungodly trends, the 'spirit' of the age.' The Lord Jesus conversely is unchanging and steadfast. More in an article here.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour. Just as you heard that an antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour.

Some of the 'American Prayer' song words could indeed have been written by satan the deceiver himself (check your bible scriptures).

'This is the time to finish what you started,
And this is no time to dream...'

'Give me your tired, your poor and huddled masses'..

The prayer and worship song 'American prayer' is not directed to the Lord.

Stopping by

Hello. :-). Sorry for the lack of blogging these week; I've been elsewhere, but I've been here a bit, looking at A.D. history and the present American matter, as they relate to the Daniel prophecies and those in the New Testament in respect of the 'last days.' I'd like to study it all more.

A few additions and updates here and there, not many. I have been very busy this week. We had some very good teaching at Church this week on the assurance of salvation ( I have it, btw :-) ) and the complete and perfect work of Christ Jesus. It was good to listen to a full discussion and observe so many relevant scripture quotes in context. I will try and find time to communicate that study on the blog this week! :-). ( If possible; time is very limited at present...).

'Gathering clouds and raging storms'

The prophet Daniel by Michelangel0. Observe the infant behind the prophet. It's not the cherabim or the seraphim, and its clearly not Christ. A very malignant look upon its face. A tiny detail in the whole painting, it seems to be the infant 'son of perdition' , the 'man of fierce countenance', to whom the prophet referred.

(The 'son of perdition', the 'man of lawlessness', the 'man of sin' referred to in the bible is popularly referred to as 'the Antichrist' in modern times.)

'Gathering clouds and raging storms' is a quote from Barack Obama's inauguration day speech.

Here , the then President Elect gives the preinauguration speech, everyone must 'come together and perfect a union'; no thanks; he praises a monument for its 'glorious representations': no, it's not glorious, it's a Masonic obelisk; (this is widely accepted I believe, just as at is widely accepted that Rome is littered with fascist signs and symbols. There are some suggestions that there is evidence throughout Washington of various types of ungodly symbolism, most of it pertaining to Freemasonry. Certainly, the Western Justice system is filled with Masonic architecture and artifacts). He praises the monument again. 'No obstacle can stand in the way of millions of voices calling for change', he says.

Below, the new President takes the oath and speaks. He slips taking the oath, when asked to promise to 'execute the office of President to the United States faithfully'.

As a result of this slip he had to go through the process again, and did so without a bible. Taking oaths is counselled against in the new Testament scriptures, by Jesus, who commands 'do not swear' 'at all'.

'Mathew 33: "Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34 But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37 Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.'

The fact that Obama might have his own motives for not wanting a bible around the second time he took the oath, and that he slipped and blundered entirely when asked to swear on the bible in the first instance, is quite interesting. Here, the Times reports on the matter, increasing its sales with Christian communities and others participating in the widespread interest.
The new President Barack Obama been practicing the speech we were subjected to on inauguration day for two months. It was not so much the raving dictator we saw announcing the New World Order in Berlin and during his speech on being elected ( and in many other places) it was more self satisfied, and hence, calmer. There was still a great deal of loud, aggressive condescending rhetoric.

It is extraordinary that after so many years of history people are prepared to buy into loud aggressive rhetoric of his kind.

He makes false promises. He pretends to defend the suffering. 'Political arguments no longer apply', he later states. Will he soon be saying 'arguments no longer apply'... ?
He later attempts to pass it off that he's quoting the bible, the Apostle Paul, and he distorts the bible again. He says 'And in the words of scripture the time has come to put away childish things and.'...... he goes on with his political speech.....: 'the time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness. '

The scripture is in fact as follows:

If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don’t have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but don’t have love, I am nothing. 3 If I dole out all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but don’t have love, it profits me nothing.

4Love is patient and is kind; love doesn’t envy. Love doesn’t brag, is not proud, 5 doesn’t behave itself inappropriately, doesn’t seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil; 6 doesn’t rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will be done away with. Where there are various languages, they will cease. Where there is knowledge, it will be done away with. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; 10 but when that which is complete has come, then that which is partial will be done away with. 11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child. Now that I have become a man, I have put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, even as I was also fully known. 13 But now faith, hope, and love remain, these three. The greatest of these is love.

'The earth has shifted beneath us' the President declares. Speak for yourself, we respond. :-) You know the relevant parable of Jesus; it's not complicated. Build your House (your life) upon the 'rock of ages', which is Christ Jesus, and you will live and prosper and have eternal life. The storm won't harm you. Build it on the shifting sands, (meaning , build a life without Christ) and when the storm comes, you will be destroyed.

Jesus' instruction is too complicated, suggest the self named 'rabbis' ( and others) mentioned in this post here; 'therefore it 'isn't fair'.
It is not complicated, and it is fair. Here, a kiddie cartoon, the parable of the house built on the rock. It's simple.

Many bible prophecies about the end times are very deep, they look to many events, and current affairs are complex. You do not have to know and understand all about the end times and what will happen in them to be saved, blessed and protected by God, not at all.

Simply, many people are interested in bible prophecy and current affairs.

This article points out that the nature of 'cult worship' of Obama appears to have long been at the 'aggressive histrionics' stage and that there is a big media move to push this further using vacuous celebrities.

'A mind-numbingly cringeworthy and deeply disturbing MySpace video release shows vacuous celebrities pledging their “service” to the incoming Obama government in the form of activities such as .......Several respondents to the video noted that the sentiments expressed were at best misguided and at worst “creepy,” “sick” and “cult-like”. '

Below, a reminder of the Barack Obama New World Order speech, just a clip. You can access his whole speech through links connected to that youtube clip. During the speech he reveals his tendency to begin fairly calmly and then work himself up to a shouting, vehement state, which people have noticed is evocative of Adolf Hitler. We also saw that while he's reiterating many of the ideals andpropaganda of Adolf Hitler, and the 'dictator spirit' is evidently present in his discourses, he is more 'smooth' throughout his speeches. He suggests that globalisation involving world politics is 'the only way to advance common security and protect common humanity,' an obvious antichrist outburst.

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The nation of Israel, according to scripture, was originally intended by God to be a light to the world around it. The perfect laws of God were given; and the people of Israel, the Israelites, were told; keep these laws, and you'll be blessed, live and prosper; disobey and neglect them, and curses and misery will follow your life. ( See the book of Deuteronomy.) The Israelites achieved wonderful victories when they walked in obedience to the Lord, when they heeded the prophets, and lived rich and extraordinary lives. However, many generations rebelled . The scriptures demonstrate that many Israelite generations needed the Lord to rescue them from their disasters.

The biblical Old Testament law couldn't save anyone from their sins and the consequence of sin. The consequence of sin was defined in the garden of Eden. Everyone sins and falls short of the glory of God. Sinful people certainly can't redeem themselves. Or each other. A sinner can't die for another sinner and redeem them.

The scriptures demonstrate that the Israelites were often worse than hopeless at saving themselves from any and every situation. No one can save themselves from sin and death.

The sinless and innocent Lord Jesus the Messiah came to earth and took the penalty for sin ( always God's plan) that people might on repentance and putting their faith in him, have eternal life. A life in Christ means salvation; and if Christians are to experience full blessing in their life in Christ, they need to be doing their best to obey Jesus' commandments and walk in the Spirit.

According to Deuteronomy, nations and leaders who do not respect the laws of God are subject to the following, among other consequences:

American King James Version

The stranger that is within you shall get up above you very high; and you shall come down very low.

Bible in Basic English

The man from a strange land who is living among you will be lifted up higher and higher over you, while you go down lower and lower.

Barack Obama's 'incredible speech' again here.

The Jewish lobbyists have been thrown out on the first day of Obama's administration (click):



'The Obama administration announced salary freezes for White House employees making over $100,000 a year, placed new limits on lobbyists' White House access and had aides circulate a draft executive order that would close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay within a year.'

This (above and below, Guantanamo) should have been done long ago, trials at Guantanamo should have been replaced with a fair Justice system ( a thing the West has long been completely incapable of). The USA, under president Bush, thoroughly demonstrated that it is incapable of dealing with an evil threat ( the terrorist threat) without demonstrating the most dreadful hypocrisy and abuse.

In 2008, instead of repentance over its nature (its nature was well demonstrated by the Bush government, those in support and those who declared themselves against) America clamored for an antichrist dictator to whom it lifts its hands in emphatic, resolute praise.

Barack is doing the following very swiftly, and with complete confidence that there will be nothing to annoy his Presidency from Islam extremist terrorists in consequence of his concession:

'The Obama administration also circulated a draft executive order that calls for closing the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay within a year. The draft order also would declare a halt to all trials currently under way at the facility, where roughly 245 detainees in the battle against terrorism on terror are held. '

Barack Obama is instantly negotiating with Iran with a publicised view to disarmament. In the past, the USA has advertised conditions before negotiations, stipulating that Iran would have to first drop its uranium enrichment programme.
If Iran were to drop its programme it would be showing serious signs of willingness to cooperate, it was publicly held. Iran, whose oil forms many of the columns propping up US power, called USA bluff all the way.
The second term Bush administration desperately needed short term economic stability and was not going to annoy Iran, that vast oil rig. It did not attack Iraq without Iran's approval you recall.

Barack Obama will want to make a show of economic stability ( or possible economic stability) for a while, it is thought. He has dropped the negotiation conditions previously imposed on Iran. Iran is showing eagerness to cooperate with Barack Obama on these terms. Barack has stated that as long as its administration continues to negotiate with Barack it will not have to drop its nuclear agenda, which must be music to its ears, surely. Israel feels differently about the news, as Iran categorically refuses to recognise the state of Israel and wants it off the map. (This sentiment has been amplified by Israel's recent actions.)

Iran is unlikely to achieve its desire to remove the state of Israel instantly and entirely, and so will probably progressively adapt with Barack Obama's suggestions. ( Speculation.)

The long term world disarmament program proposed by the President elect is not credible, but those who dance and weep for Obama will be taken in. (We'll wait and see what happens with this President.) This huge disarmement programme may perhaps be a part of a world 'false peace', but it may be a great deception.

If you prefer not to be taken in by Islamist extremists and their proposals, take a look at the behaviour of Islam extremists: on the web, and everywhere else. It is beyond appalling. Men working aggressive Islam are violent and imbecile in their behaviour; their behaviour is indefensable. As well as conducting terror campaigns they are preoccupied with attempting to negate Islamist extremists' responsibility for violence and hostilities by constructing conspiracy theories about Jews and everyone else. Many even attempt to make out that 9/11 and 7/7 were a Western government operation and that Islam extremists and their associates who make their nature known everywhere they go had nothing to do with it. It's deplorable. (How the American government and Security Services Managed to allow 9/11 to 'slip through the net' is another, important question. Likewise the British government in respect of 7/7 .)
The behaviour of Islam extremists-terrorists is the worst on the planet, perhaps the worst their has even been. It is well described as an 'abomination', an 'abomination of desolation'.

The Lord Jesus uses the term 'abomination of desolation' in a specific context. This is a matter for 'watch and pray.' This in no sense detracts from the fact that he surely views ( see the scriptures) the behaviour of the Islamist extremists as an 'abomination of desolation.'

If Barack Obama is to administrate an 'unprecedented period of world peace' this state of peace ( 'false peace', many suggest) will suggestably depend upon his administration and his deals, rather than a fair and balanced status of world disarmament.

According to the Daniel prophecies, the man 'with fierce countenance' will at first promise and then bring temporary peace, unenduring peace; effectively, a false peace. Unprecedented peace and political achievement that endures for a time, and precedes great tribulation and trouble. 'By peace he shall destroy many'.

Daniel 8:23 - 27 (KJV) 23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. 26And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. 27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

Through this means, this temporary peace, the 'son of perdition' will enlist many, deceive many, destroy many. There is indication ( see also the book of Revelation) that people may be destroyed through allegiance to him or by aggressive action he'll take after a peaceful period.

The 'false peace' prophesied in the bible will be achieved through cunning, the scriptures indicate.

An unprecedented 'world peace' is exactly what Barack Obama is proposing.

Peace in the Middle East, peace between Palestine and Israel, which Obama claims he is working toward, would be welcomed the world's governments the world over .

(Here, a good link to videos showing Obama working on Middle East at present, a priority in his Presidency. )

During such a peace period, Barack Obama may assist with rebuilding the third Temple in Jerusalem.

Here, a link to the 'Temple Institute', where ideas and progress are discussed.


Here, just below, a link to the matter: rebuilding the Temple. (Ignore comments beneath the video.) A Jewish 'rabbi' , deluded, who does not believe that Jesus is the Messiah, ( he seems to be into some sort of mystical weirdness promoted in the Talmud) suggests that rebuilding the (third) Temple in Jerusalem is 'the bringer of true world peace', that the rebuilding of the Jerusalem temple is a 'focal point of spiritual energy' of mankind, and that he and the Jewish people are at the centre of the whole world in some mystical way thanks to their superiority as beings. His is a complete misinterpretation of scripture . His self elevation, conceit and phoney spirituality come across.

Sinless Jesus, the Lamb of God, on the cross, paid the price for sin and he is mankind's redeemer. Redemption is a gift from God available to all; each individual has to repent of their sins, confess their sins to God, put their faith in Jesus Christ- and be redeemed. Jesus Christ is the way to eternal life. The sacrifices to God of the Old Testament were holy because the sacrificial lamb prefigured Jesus , the 'lamb of God'. The sacrifices in the temple preceded Jesus; they illustrated the need for redemption, the need for an offering to be made to God for forgiveness of sins.

Here, an article 'Jesus the Lamb of God.'

Jesus came to earth, and his redemptive work is complete. He said to the Sanhedrin: 'destroy this temple and I will rebuild it in three days.' He was talking about going to the cross and his resurrection from the dead.

Making the old animal sacrifices to God in a Jerusalem temple in this era would be effectively a denial of Christ, ungodly, antichrist.

A drawing of Ezekiel's visionary temple.

Many Jewish people believe that their 'Messiah who is yet to come' will facilitate the rebuilding the Temple in modern times' in order to bring about world peace. They are mistaken, the Messiah is Jesus.

'Orthodox Judaism believes in the rebuilding of a Third Temple and the resumption of sacrificial worship, although there is disagreement about how rebuilding should take place or exactly what kind of worship will occur. Orthodox authorities generally believe that rebuilding should occur in the era of the Jewish Messiah at the hand of Divine Providence, although a minority position, following the opinion of Maimonides, holds that Jews should endeavor to rebuild the temple themselves, whenever possible. Orthodox authorities generally predict the resumption of the complete traditional system of sacrifices, but some authorities have disagreed. It has traditionally been assumed that some sort of animal sacrifices would be re instituted, in accord with the rules in Leviticus and the Talmud. This belief is embedded in Orthodox liturgy. Every Orthodox prayer service contains prayers for the Temple's restoration and for sacrificial worship's resumption, and every day there is a recitation of the order of the day's sacrifices and the psalms the Levites would have sung that day.'

'Orthodox Jewish prayers include, in every prayer service, a prayer for the reconstruction of the Temple and resumption of sacrifices. The morning prayer service also includes a study session of the daily Temple ritual and offerings as a reminder, including detailed study of the animal sacrifices and incense offerings. The service also contains the daily and special-occasion psalms the Levites used to sing in the Temple. Following the weekday Torah reading there is a prayer to "restore the House of our lives and to cause the Shekhinah Divine Presence) to dwell among us", and the Amidah contains prayers for acceptance of "the fire-offerings of Israel" and ends with a meditation for the restoration of the Temple.'

Here, another 'rabbi' commends the numbers 666 and insists that they 'herald the true Messiah'. Excerpt from his writing below:

"Mosad Hayesod" cites the Vilna Gaon's commentary on the Zohar that "the number 666 contains hidden within it exalted and lofty messianic potential." No other explanation is offered there. We do know that the number six represents the physical world. The Torah describes the creation of the universe as a six part, six day, process. Our ancient sources describe the universe as emanating in six directions -- north, south, east, west, up, down -- from a central point. All physical space and all physical objects have these six dimensions.666 is six repeated three times. Repeating a concept three times represents the affirmation and strength of that concept. The number 666 could thus represent the strength and perfection of the physical world, which Judaism teaches will occur in the messianic era, when the physical world will reach its ultimate purpose, to be a vehicle through which the created experience the Creator."

The rebuilding of the 'third temple', suggests the 'rabbi' in the video linked above, (speaking about the Temple) will give rise to an 'unprecedented period of world peace'.

Christians believe that a 'false peace' provided by a world false Messiah through his dealings in end times will mislead and deceive many. The 'son of perdition' will at some point '....sit in the temple of God, proclaiming that he is God.'

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, ( the second coming of Jesus) except there come a falling away first, and that a man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. - II Thessalonians 2:3-4

At some point afterward (at some point in the matter) tribulation and terrible trouble will strike according to the words of Jesus.

'Take heed lest any man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying 'I am Christ', and deceive many. And when you shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, do not be troubled, for such must needs be, but the end shall not be yet. For nations shall rise against nations, and there shall be earthquakes in diverse places, and famines and troubles; these are the beginnings of sorrows. But take heed to yourselves, for they shall deliver you up to councils, and in the synagogues you shall be beaten, and you shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, as a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published to all the nations.

The hills and mountains of Judea.

Jesus: ....'But when you shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing where it ought not, then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains, and let him that is in the housetop not go down into his house, no enter in, to take anything out of his house; and let him that is in the field not turn back to take up his garment. But woe to them that are with child, and give suck in those days! And pray that your flight be not in the winter. For in those days there will be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, nor ever shall be. And except that the Lord shorten those days, which for the elects (believers') sake he has chosen, no flesh could survive, but for the elects' sake, he has shortened the days. And then if any man should say to you Lo, there is Christ! Or there is he! Believe him not. For false Christs and false prophets shall rise and show signs and wonders to seduce, if possible, even the elect. But take heed, I have told you all these things.'

Given the fact that the behaviour of Islamist terrorists has usually been unchanging whatever the circumstances, there is speculation that Islamist extremists who have connections with arab leaders with whom Barack Obama is negotiating are not going to disarm or abandon their violent plans while they make peace with Israel and the rest of the world for a period; they are merely going to put on a show of peace, with Obama's full knowledge.

Countless people in this world believe that a 'period of peace' is somehow absolute in affirming the good disposition of a world/political ruler, but the bible suggests otherwise.

Barack Obama's propositions of peace and the peace period that may ensue, are an important a matter to look out for as any when comparing the current global situation and the scriptures.

The Lord Jesus' peace is the only true, honest, fulfilling and enduring peace. 'My peace I leave with you, my peace I give you; not as the world gives do I give to you.' Says the Lord. ( See the scriptures.)

The 'false peace' provided by the 'son of perdition' spoken of in the bible will be a testing time, according to the bible; that's not for no reason, it it. The bible speaks of those who ' remain faithful to the Lord Jesus.'

Who is faithful to Christ? Who will the be identified as belonging to Christ when the time comes?

The Lord will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. Scripture here.

Heaven is already in this process. Yes they are. (According to scripture. If you are a true Christian you are a sheep of Christ's fold, that's the work of God.)

There are sheep yet to come into Christ's fold. Yes there are. ( According to scripture.)

Many people need to repent, and turn to the Lord. The bible's original languages use a words that mean 'turn' and 'return' when translated into English.

There are still may people who haven't come down off the fence in respect of the Obama question, whether he is the 'son of perdition' described in the bible. The 'man of lawlessness', the 'man of sin' who is to precede the second coming of Jesus.

He is obviously an antichrist dictator in these last days.

I think we should 'watch and pray.'

Barack Obama does appears to be the sum of a (world significant) false Messiah at just the time. Today, (Sunday) our pastor at my Church suggested, 'given the current economic climate and the problems , Barack Obama will either face up to the fact that the true solution to any crisis is to obey and follow the word of God, which he is not doing at all, 'or he will be broken.''
He didn't say 'broken without hand.'
Most people have concluded that Barack Obama is very unlikely to start following God and respecting his word.

People have different opinions in my Church on the Obama question. Everyone agrees he's a false Messiah. Most people are interested in the subject.

Christians are to be ' salt and light'; 'a city on a hill cannot be hid'. We follow and respect the Lord's teachings because we're in a relationship with the Lord. We obey his commandments. We continue to pray for the harvest, and for God's promises of blessing on the righteous, those who believe and trust in Jesus, because they are there in his word.

(The OAC blog, just one of many blogs on the matter- very good on the 'Global government' (often called the 'New World Order'), good data, well researched, sense and no conspiracy theories- has come down off the fence and said it thinks that 'no Barack Obama is not' the 'son of perdition' ( 'the man of sin,' the 'man of lawlessness', popularly referred to in these times as 'the Antichrist.') (Their blog has recently been visited by prank comments from a site called 'Blairwatch,' and their associates, who are Internet libellers and stalkers.)

I say in response to a recent posting the OAC blog made: every Christian believes that prophecies in the bible (e.g. those about the 'son of perdition') are about realities. Of course. I am only interested in discussions about the end times and global government etc. from the scripture perspective.

Other blogs have come down off the fence and say the opposite to the OAC blog, i.e they declare that Obama is the global government false Messiah ( they use the popular expression 'Antichrist.')

Here, another interesting selection of observations and speculations on the 'Obama is the Antichrist' theme.

Philip Berg is refusing to accept Obama's presidency. 'Obama crimes' has the latest on Berg's Court case against Obama.

Barack Obama has now been celebrated in America by an artist's impression of a figure of him riding into the senate on a donkey at the head of a procession. An artist's cryptic comment, or an artist's adulation. Not inspiring either way; I'd prefer not to see such an 'exhibition' at all.

Pepsi join the Obama 'hope' parade. The 'happy clappy' Obama motor continues
and the bigger brands rake it in. Here, a bemused commuter examines what he's being asked to believe.

Here, the telegraph expands. ( Pepsi piccy here.)

Obama's new government 'image' seems to be dominating a good number of major market brands at present, the major players. The 'image', ( or mark, in this context perhaps) is now a trade exchange leader. It didn't take long. So many want to 'buy Obama'.

It was predicable enough, given the marketing surrounding Obama's campaign- but no one saw it coming in so fast.

'Watch and pray'; that's what He said to do. Jesus. No premature conclusions, no shutting him out, no falling asleep about current affairs. Just dependancy on the Lord Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit. 'Watch and pray.'

This (the page linked) is an interesting 'Watch and pray' article.

Gaza

Here, a link helpful to students of the Israel situation re the Gaza situation and the borders. Here, another helpful link.

MI5 are in Israel and the surrounding area, as are American CIA.

The current American government ( and to an extent, the British govt.) apparently perceives a long term interest in the current situation in Gaza, which it initiated and encouraged, helping the directive in Israel in this unprecedented attack on Gaza. President Bush and his administration entirely assisted Israel's directive and military in planning the current vast assault on Gaza which has lead to Jewish people of Israel experiencing widespread condemnation from the outside world, which will put Jewish Israeli citizens in a very weak position in terms of gaining international support in dangerous situations in future.


'While David Miliband called for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza and Gordon Brown stressed the need to “stop the supply of arms” to Hamas, the FCO has licensed increasing arms sales to Israel, including kit it needs to bomb the Palestinians. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office has issued licences covering the export of components for combat aircraft and military aero engines, as well as parts for Israeli pilots’ “helmet-mounted display equipment”. According to the latest FCO figures, Britain exported £18,847,795-worth of weapons to Israel in the first three months of 2008. This was a sharp increase compared to the £7.5m of weapons sales to Israel in the whole of 2007.'

No push was given by the U.S. for Israel to negotiate a truce with Hamas, apparently. None.

Jewish Israeli people have been increasingly bewildered and afraid over the past year; American Jews may have voted for Obama in significant numbers, but the idea of his government has terrified people in the state of Israel, not without reason. Mostly, Israel feels threatened by the world outside. Israel is terrified about the world situation and coming terror campaigns against Jews it perceives on the horizon. (This is no justification whatever for its current criminal action against so many Palestinian civilians in Gaza.)


The CIA are thought to desire deals with Obama's contacts in the Muslim network for American counter terrorism reasons. Jewish lobbyist power in America is all but gone. It is thought that in return for Barack Obama promising to hand them a significant part of Israel at some future point, international arab leaders will negotiate with their terrorist element and will assist the current President Elect in promoting his status among the people of the free world by agreeing to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and halt terrorist attacks on the West, so ending America's 'war on terror' which is getting America nowhere in the world sphere. The current and future American govt administration is apparently keen to promote such a deal. It suggests that it wants an end to the terrorist threat.

(It is also thought that Barack Obama may want Jerusalem and Israel, or the best part of it, for himself, at a later stage.)

It would be impossible for Barack Obama to hand any part of Israel over to Muslim/arab political leaders without international approval and condemnation of Israel. At no stage will Barack Obama be able to hand over even part of the state of Israel to Muslim/arab leaders without unusual and unprecedented world support.

Jewish Israel has lost world support in the past weeks.

The Media have been catapulting Obama into the White House for over two years, without interruption, almost. Undivided mainstream media backing for any political and cause does not happen if the Security Services are not in supportive agreement. (Such as occured for example, in many countries during WW II.) The type of media backing Obama gained during his campaign was unprecedented. Obama's presidential campaign was unique in respect of media support and bias.


New times are here.

Many people believe that the end to the wars and terror attacks that will apparently be negotiated by Obama may be a 'false peace'; after Obama subsequently shares or all Israel over to arab leaders he and they may well demonstrate that they have no desire to live peacefully with Israeli Jews. It is clear that the extremist Islam element have in the past desired many areas of Jerusalem and Israel for themselves ( if not the entire place) and have expressed their wish to take over or eradicate sites that Jewish Israel and many Christians consider to be sacrosanct.

It is thought that Obama may ultimately assist and allow a terrible assault on Jewish Israel and anyone who objects. It is thought that he may further attack the Church. The Lord calls Israelite Israel and the Church 'Israel', there are however distinctions.

Such an end time event may be part of the great tribulation described by Jesus, who said that trouble would be so terrible that if the Lord had not shortened the days 'no flesh would survive.'

Jesus said: "And you shall be hated of all men for my names' sake, but he that endures to the end shall be saved'. .....'For in those days there will be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, nor ever shall be. And except that the Lord shorten those days, which for the elects (believing Christian's) sake he has chosen, no flesh could survive, but for the elects' sake, he has shortened the days. "

The current situation in Gaza renders Jewish Israelis extremely vulnerable to an unprecedented future attack from Israel's long term enemies. The Palestinian people of Gaza, the non militant people of the place, suffer terrible tribulation there at this time.

There have been outbursts outside the Israeli embassy in London and many riot police have been in attendance. Here, the latest. Both sides continue to breach the ceasefire. Someone just said: ' The old Jews, those who lived during the second world war, don't want anything to do with this. It's the new ones.' 'The Jews have been controlling American decisions for half a century, it's the Jews in America who control the decisions about Israel....!' is being asserted. I heard someone shout 'Israel deserves to be taken out for this!' (The person was referring to Israel's assualt on Gaza.)




An article here, 'thousands warn Israel'... with researched quotes. Here, the New York Protests.

'In Ireland, thousands marched through Dublin, Cork, Galway and Sligo in protests organised by the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign. Speakers included peace activist Mairead Corrigan, who visited Gaza last year and Irish Congress of Trade Unions president Patricia McKeown.
In Paris on Saturday, police said that 21,000 marched through the streets, shouting "We are all Palestinians" and "Israel assassin."
In the Turkish capital Ankara about 5,000 demonstrators shouted "killer Israel."
In the Netherlands, thousands of people marched through Amsterdam, criticising both the Israeli attacks and the Dutch government's failure to condemn them. One banner declared: "Anne Frank is turning in her grave. Oh Israel!"......

Here, a huge plethora of anti-Israel posters and announcements. ( Merely to demonstrate events.) Here, an article revealing that Iranians have gathered togther to mock the holocaust, chanting 'death to Israel'.

The way may be being paved for the world we live in to turn a blind eye to a serious attack on Jewish Israelis that will vastly surpass anything of the kind that the state of Israel's experienced before.

Here, a reporter suggests that any casefire negotiation will need to take into account Israel's security concerns. 'An inexorable momentum appears to be building in favour of a ceasefire to halt the bloodshed in Gaza, but any attempt by the U.N. to stop the fighting will be stillborn unless it takes into account Israel's security concerns.'


'Israel did not invade Gaza just for the h**l of it: it invaded Gaza to stop Iranian-backed Hamas militants from firing missiles at nearby Israeli neighborhoods. And it would be political suicide for the government of Israeli Premier Ehud Olmert to agree to a ceasefire if such an agreement resulted in Hamas resuming their terror campaign against Israeli towns and cities the moment Israeli forces had withdrawn from Gaza.'

There was no justified local need for an assault on Gaza of this scale. Ill planned and intermittent rockets have been firing off from Gaza at Israel for a long time. The appalling Hamas have been an extremely serious problem, as with the 'Palestinian liberation army' etc. Something needed to be done; attacking he whole of Gaza and killing eighteen hundred Palestinians, the majority, civilians, and wounding so many more, was not it.

America's present and future government is a major player in the Gaza situation.

American Security Services have been and still are heavily involved. And the UK isn't staying out of it either. American politicians make as many, nay more, suggestions regarding Israel as American Jews in a strong position to. If recommendations of Jewish Americans who advocated the assault on Gaza were not for action which the American administration thought might prove to be of perceived long term use to the States, America would not have supported the same.

America's government cannot have failed to foresee that Israel's American assisted offensive on Gaza would serve to condemn the Israeli directive and its military in the eyes of the world and potentially to catastrophe.


Jewish banking is collapsing along with the rest of the world economy and needs rescuing, but war and crisis is usually not a way to go about financial rescue......Everyone's seen Barack Obama snug up to Bush and his administration and Muslim leaders that protect leaders of Muslim terrorist networks.

it looks as if the Israeli directive and its military have been stupid and violent enough to help walk Israel into what appears to be an horrific trap that renders it desperately vulnerable to its enemies (which already include the USA.).
It has thoroughly ignored the Old Testament and the New.

Israel's unrighteous administration has turned to nations and people that do not care for Israeli citizens and Israel is being exploited and betrayed.
Spiritual darkness previals in the region.

Don't have anything to do with retaliative style reactions anywhere.
'Weep with those who weep, mourn with those who mourn.' ( Commandment from Jesus.)

Above, a 'Free palestine' poster demonstrating a terrorized, grieving child in the Gaza region.

Israel drops leaflets on Gaza warning of a step up in attacks.

Here, a map of Palestine in Jesus' day. Observe where Nazareth is situated. In Jesus' day Nazareth was considered something of a 'lesser place', in much the same way the Gaza strip is today. About Jesus' childhood home many members of the Sanhedrin of his day ( including the pharisees) with great arrogance, inquired 'Does anything good come out of Nazareth?' The answer of course was yes, many people, including the Messiah they rejected to their eternal regret. (Jesus was born in Bethlehem in accordance with bible scriptures prophecy).
Gaza crisis enters third week.

Israeli forces intensify Gaza offensive.

Prominent British Jews demand ceasefire. The link contains links to information on the suffering of Palestinians in Gaza who are currently experiencing the devastating effects of Israel's attack. Nine hundred Palestinians have now been killed. The suffering Palestinian civilians are experiencing as a result of the crimes committed by the US directive, the Israeli directive and the Israeli military is as terrible as the imagination can conceive. Let's give the victims our help with the humanitarian assistance they need whenever and wherever we can, and our love and friendship and prayer.

Febuary's elections in Israel 2009 may mean the election of a new leader in Israel who may work with Barack Hussein Obama in dividing Israel; half Jerusalem and Israel may be given up out of necessity as part of a 'peace negotiation'. This may be the direct result of the current problems. The UN, acting with Barack Obama may force Israel to back down and give up land. At present the idea of Israel voluntarily giving up half Jerusalem and Israel to its perceived enemies looks very unlikely, but things may radically change as a result of the current situation being reviewed by new leaders in March. Barack Obama has announced that 'plans for Middle east peace' are his priority as soon as he takes the Oval office.

Here, 'Islam exposed, plan's to dominate the world', with comments from Mahmoud Armedinejad. (As seen, Islam may, in the future, only be a feature of the apparely emergent 'new World Religion' that seems to be most prevalent in the West).

Currently Israel is not looking as if it is prepared to give up land. The 'fight to the death' attitude between so many physical descendants of Abraham's two sons prevails. If the Israeli directive does split Jerusalem/Israel this year (with the UN forcing it into a retreat) such a desperate deal is not likely to protect Jews in Israel from extremist Islam contacts in the networks of world arab/Muslim leaders- what are Israeli state representatives and Jewish Israeli citizens going to rely on from them , long term goodwill?

Below, a Palestinian victim and witness to the war crimes committed against his people in Gaza expresses his feeling. ( It seems very apparent.)

But there may be a deceptive peaceful period for a while in the first stages of Obama's presidency.

'By peace he shall destroy many'...

That the USA walked Israel into its current action is clear. Here, Osama bin Laden has called for Jihad over the Israeli offensive on Gaza, according to the Times.

'"God has bestowed us with the patience to continue the path of jihad for another seven years, and seven and seven years," bin Laden said on the tape dated in the current Islamic month. "The question is, can America continue its war with us for several more decades to come? Reports and evidence would suggest otherwise."'

Grieving Palestinian citizens and anyone who's following Barack Obama need to realise that Barack Obama, false Messiah, is not a saviour. (Hitler was not a saviour for wounded economically damaged post world war I Germany, he was an ambitious predator.) He is a predator, an ambitious predator, a false Messiah. A predator who is after control of the free world. ( And he's got it.) America's and Israel's administration in neglecting and progressively, increasingly, horrifically abusing Palestinian people (on the Gaza strip in particular) may well have given Barack Obama and his extremist contacts in the arab/Muslim world a platform for any type of self serving long term plan he and they may wish to put in place .

Bush is no Christian, its no secret at all that he is a professed member of secret societies ( see his own comments in various books) and a strong advocate of the New World Order now called for by Barack Obama; he and his administration come across as compulsive, sententious war criminals; what's happening to huige numbers of Palestinian people is terrible. Blair comes across as equally inhuman for having colluded with Bush over this matter, and Brown, no better.

The mainstream media largely ignore the pivotal role of the American administration in the Gaza situation, their liaison with the Israeli directive, though it appears irrefutable. If only we could believe that this was simply because words are insufficient to express the disgust people feel at the way the American administration and (inevitably) Western Security Services have been behaving. (Refers to the putting in place of this Israeli attack on Gaza.) It isn't possible to conclude that President Elect Barack Obama did not give his approval for the push behind Israel's action in the Gaza strip.

Here, a relevant article on the oil question:

'Crude oil fell for a third day as falling equity markets and consumer confidence intensified concerns that the global recession will lessen energy demand.

Oil dropped more than 4 percent as U.S. stock index futures declined along with stocks in Europe and Asia.'

' Crude earlier rose as much as 2.4 percent to $43.63 as rocket attacks on Israel launched from Lebanon spurred concerns that the widening conflict in Gaza will disrupt Middle East supplies, and as Venezuela and Angola signaled compliance with OPEC production cuts agreed on last month. '

Oil falls in the face of the current lack of consumer confidence nonetheless. Here. Still no end to the conflict on the Gaza strip which was instigated and encouraged by President Bush's administration.

'The price of oil lost more than half its value in 2008, and suffered a staggering decline of more than $100 a barrel from its peak last summer as the global economic slowdown undermined demand.'

Still no end to the conflict in Gaza.

A brief look at Iran (dated but still relevant, good essay):

"In short, there are many factors involved in what one might term the “root cause” of Iranian-US animosity. But the reality is all of the points of friction between Iran and the US could be readily resolved with viable diplomacy save two: Israel’s current level of unflinching hostility towards Iran, and America’s addiction to global energy resources. These two factors guarantee that there will be tension between Iran and the United States for some time to come, and place blame for the continuation of tension firmly on the side of the United States".

If you take Israel out of the equation there's no more tension between Iran and the U.S. Iran is a greater oil resource than you can shake a stick at, and it strongly rejects the state of Israel. Attacks on Iran don't balance the global market, ( owned by the US) they send oil prices through the roof.

Hitherto, American Israeli military power has been the key player in America maintaining world power (Oil monopoly playing a vital role). This may ensure a period of safety for Israel as Obama settles into the White House. It probably won't last.

These days the 'intelligence' services have forgotten the two distinct meanings of the term they pretend to put in practice, (the word 'intelligence') and tend to the false belief that mere information equates to the meaning. They've forgotten the principle of human intelligence; humility, objectivity, deduction, reason. In their pride, they imagine that information and direction they receive automatically renders them intelligent beings.

Here, the 1948 Palestinian exodus, often refered to as 'Naqba'. Hagar, mother of the arab/Muslim patriarch Ishmael, son of Abraham, is often seen as an image of Palestinian suffering and exile.

The face of the little boy in the painting looks just like that of the beautiful boy in the 'Free Palestine from the Occupation' poster, you will need to see the enlarged version here.

This also; Hagar and the angel. Beautiful.

Archives

My Dad's SOE records (1939-1946) have been confided to the National Archives, along with other SOE files. They are not available under the Freedom of Information Act and are 'closed'. ( The SOE was the official name for Churchill's Secret Army.) Dad worked on facilitating British agent communications and sabotaging Nazi operations.
'Station X' simply meant 'Station 10', there were many stations. The station names and operation names were kept as simple as possible, the idea was that the SS were to fail to perceive their existence for as long as possible, for obvious reasons.

Faith hope and love remain

For other posts relating to subjects in this post, scroll down.

Today I saw ( inner City London) a bus drive past with a vast, apparently gratuitous, huge public advertisement:

'There probably is no God. Now relax and enjoy yourself.'

As well as making the incorrect statement that there is no God, this new 'trailer' suggests that relaxation and enjoyment do not happen in the Spirit filled born again believer's life, which is also false.

There seemed to be no commercial reason for the bus announcement. Has anyone else seen this new bus slogan?

Would anyone expect to see such vast announcements everywhere in the public domain a decade ago?

Jesus said, " Luke 17:26-30 "And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. "

The days of the Son of man infers to the days before the second coming of the Lord Jesus. Prior to his return, we can expect a situation as described to Timothy, who learned from the Apostle Paul:

2Timothy 3:1-7 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, fierce, despisers of those that are good. Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Rembrant's Apostle Paul.

The Apostle Paul wrote in the bible:

'If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal.

And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing.
If I give away everything I own, and if I hand my body over so that I may boast but do not have love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, (love) is not pompous, it is not inflated,
it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury,
it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.
It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Love never fails. If there are prophecies, they will be brought to nothing; if tongues, they will cease; if knowledge, it will be brought to nothing.
For we know partially and we prophesy partially,
but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.
When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things.
At present we see indistinctly, as in a mirror, but then face to face. At present I know partially; then I shall know fully, as I am fully known.
So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love'.

There is a redeemer, he went to the cross for you. His name is Jesus. He is the son of God.

'For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, Jesus Christ, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.'

The description 'having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof' refers to people who put on a show of godliness but deny the truths of the bible, they deny the full story.

Jesus said: "And you shall be hated of all men for my names' sake, but he that endures to the end shall be saved'. .....'For in those days there will be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, nor ever shall be. And except that the Lord shorten those days, which for the elects (believing Christian's) sake he has chosen, no flesh could survive, but for the elects' sake, he has shortened the days. "

I love this 'Lift Jesus Higher' video below. Many Christian communities in Africa are being terribly persecuted at present. Zimbabwe is suffering terribly. At my Church we receive stories about people having members of their families murdered, their houses ramsacked; they're being bullied, robbed, expelled, continually intimidated. What they endure while satan is taking his last stand in the world is appalling. They continue to sing the praises of Jesus.

The words are: 'Lift Jesus higher', 'Lower satan lower'.

Give these people all your love and support whenever and wherever you can. (End Time Evangelism here. They have removed their videos is a reshuffle, I hope they go back up again!)

Continue to declare the full bible story and praise Jesus.

The Israeli directive orders the military to carry out a massive strike on Gaza in a last ditch attempt to maneuver American lobbyists into standing successfully Obama's contacts in the Islam network. Over six hundred Palestinians killed. Newspaper reports show that two schools were devastated.

Both sides are rejecting a ceasefire. Israel's directive and the Hamas response want to show that 'their position had improved as a result of the fighting'.

Yet more demonstrations of pride, fear, aggressive ancestor worship, ( worship of human ancestors) racism, vengeance, and violence in the region.

Maneuver American lobbyists into standing successfully against Obama's contacts in the Islam network?

There is a much higher probability of an attack on Jewish Israel and Jerusalem in consequence of this....

A prayer Network for the Peace of Jerusalem. Good news in the turmoil.

Here, arab legislators speak out for Gaza from a meeting in Tyre. An interesting co-incidence.

Jesus and John the Baptist spoke out against ancestor worship ( worship of human ancestors). The saducees the pharisees of his era attempted to excuse themselves from their patently apparent need for salvation on the basis that they were 'descendants of Abraham'.

International Standard Version: 'Don't think you can say to yourselves, 'We have father Abraham!' because I tell you that God can raise up descendants for Abraham from these stones!'

Think not to say... 'We have Abraham to our father'. Sadducees and pharisees believed that Abraham's race was to be saved, if all else were destroyed. However, there was one way they could take, like everyone else: they had to be born again. They were not to flatter themselves that their inheritance ( human ancestry) could make them secure.

Another layer of meaning (prophetic) :

'God is as able to raise up a seed to Abraham out of those stones........ as He was 'to take Abraham himself out of the rock whence he was hewn and out of the hole of the pit whence he was digged' (Isa 51:1). While Jesus may have pointed as he spoke to the pebbles of the bare clay hills that lay around it was clearly the calling of the Gentiles into the room of unbelieving and then disinherited Israel that he meant to indicate ( Mt 21:43; Ro 11:20, 30).'

Israel was never disinherited in the sense of cast away, abandoned or rejected. Rather, there was a change of situation and the gentiles came into the Kingdom of God. After Jesus resurrection, the Lord as promised 'poured out his spirit on all flesh' ( All believers) and continues to do so.

International Standard Version.
'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on everyone. Your sons and your daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams'.

The Lord gave, still gives, his spirit to indwell all who believe, who enter into a direct relationship with the Heavenly Father through Jesus. The bible later speaks extensively on the gratfing in of the gentiles into the 'cultivated Olive tree' of God and the salvation of the Jews in the 'end times' who will return to Messiah Jesus in significant numbers : 'when the fullness of the gentiles has come in.'

Romans 11:1 I say then, Has the Lord cast away his people? The Lord forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 The Lord has not cast away his people which he foreknew.

Jeremiah 31: 35 Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, who divides the sea when the waves thereof roar; the Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, says the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus says the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, says the LORD.

The prophet Ezekiel and the 'Prince of Tyre'

The prophet Ezekiel by Michelangelo.

The 'futurist' view of the 'end times', so named, takes seriously the prophecies of Daniel and historical events, and advocates that according to scripture there is a 'son of perdition' , or the 'man of lawlessness' ( as defined by scripture) who emerges in the last days.

This link here is well written outline of relevant Ezekiel prophecies, I'll quote it here.

'We frequently find in scripture prophecy that the prophet is speaking of a contemporaneous event and also refers to an event of later times, ( end times) of which the contemporaneous event is in some respects a type'.

The scriptures demonstrate that there are political powers on earth and principalities and a spiritual equivalent that the bible names 'Powers and Principalities.' It is clearly implied that evil in the world is orchestrated by satan and his fallen Archangels who rebelled with satan : 'powers in high places' are said to control the legions of fallen angels beneath them. The 'high places' mentioned are not in God's heaven. They are beneath God's heaven.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" Ephesians 6:12 - KJV

Below, God's command to the prophet Ezekiel to go and rebuke a man who sets himself up as a great god . It is thought the scripture prophecy may ultimately apply to the 'son of perdition' of the last days ( popularly referred to as the 'Antichrist'.)

Ezekiel 28:1-10 [1] The word of the LORD came to me: [2] "Son of man, say to the ruler [most translations: prince of Tyre, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "`In the pride of your heart you say, "I am a god; I sit on the throne of a god in the heart of the seas." But you are a man and not a god, though you think you are as wise as a god. [3] Are you wiser than Daniel? Is no secret hidden from you? [4] By your wisdom and understanding you have gained wealth for yourself and amassed gold and silver in your treasuries. [5] By your great skill in trading you have increased your wealth, and because of your wealth your heart has grown proud. [6] "`Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "`Because you think you are wise, as wise as a god, [7] I am going to bring foreigners against you, the most ruthless of nations; they will draw their swords against your beauty and wisdom and pierce your shining splendor. [8] They will bring you down to the pit, and you will die a violent death in the heart of the seas. [9] Will you then say, "I am a god," in the presence of those who kill you? You will be but a man, not a god, in the hands of those who slay you. [10] You will die the death of the uncircumcised at the hands of foreigners. I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD.'"

So there's a 'Prince of Tyre' who's being addressed in scripture who is rebuked and condemned by the Lord.

Barack Hussein Obama, President Elect of the USA is the subject of many questions about his 'Messiah complex' and his role at the forefront of an emergent global governance or 'One World Government' which he has called for and named 'New World Order.' ( he also refers to it as 'globalisation', apparently when speaking of a 'global economy'.)

The two scripture paragraphs cited here are consecutive. The prophet Ezekiel is told to rebuke satan. See how it goes. Notice satan is called 'King of Tyre' in this instance. Implying that satan himself is ruling over the 'Tyre' region:

Ezekiel 28:11-19 [11] The word of the LORD came to me: [12] "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "`You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. [13] You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. [14] You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. [15] You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. [16] Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. [17] Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. [18] By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. [19] All the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more.'"

This perfect prophecy appears to tell the story of satan being cast out of heaven as well as his 'horrible end'. The bible is the Lord's true word.

Jesus is our redeemer.

Colossions 2:14 and 15: 'He did this by erasing the charges that were brought against us by the written laws God had established. He took the charges away by nailing them to the cross.
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.


Here is a Revelation scripture:

International Standard Version (©2008)
'So be glad, heavens, and those who live in them! How terrible it is for the earth and the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, filled with rage, knowing that his time is short!"

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" Ephesians 6:12 - KJV


The contemporaneous event in ancient Tyre is outlined via the site linked as follows:

'Verses 1-10 refer at least primarily to the prince of Tyre then reigning, Ittiobalus by name, according to Josephus. They were fulfilled in the siege of Tyre by Nebuchadnezzar.

Tyre was a great seafaring, naval, and financial power, the Wall Street of its time. Its core was on a highly fortified island, which made it practically impervious to attack. Ultimately, Alexander the Great completed the conquest of Tyre by taking rubble from the ruins of the mainland construction and using it to build a road to the island so his armies could mount a sustained assault on the fortifications.

Verses 11-19 have expressions which it is difficult, if not impossible, to refer to any mere man, e.g., verses 12-14. There are however, other verses that seem to indicate an earthly kingdom, e.g., 16 and 18.'

The scriptures shown above demonstrate more apparent biblical allusion to the 'son of perdition', the 'man of lawlessness' ...who according to scripture is to rise to power in the last days. Here again there appears to be the suggestion that in the 'end times' people will perceive that there have been been many false Messiahs who have come into the world, and that yet there is a penultimate ( world significant) false Messiah, the 'son of perdition', 'the man of lawlessness' who is part of a world governance. (The 'son of perdition' is popularly referred to as 'the Antichrist' in our times.)

In respect of the 'man of lawlessness' there is the scripture ' ...the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth.'

This blog recommends peaceful behaviors in accordance with the beatitudes of the Lord Jesus in his Sermon on the Mount at all times.


'Tyre' is an ancient world principality. The Ezekiel prophecy interpretation here shown gives credence to the suggestion that the 'son of perdition' -'man of lawlessness' described in the bible will have a background related to the history of Tyre. A Muslim or part Muslim background to the 'son of perdition' is often suggested today. There is nothing in Revelation on the ethnicity of the 'son of perdition'. Given the scripture prophecies, it makes sense that if the 'son of perdition' were to emerge in our generation he would have an education in the religion and religious ways of a people who are very hostile to 'Israel', (hostile to both the Jewish people and the Church) which points to Islam. It makes sense that his hostile background should evolve out of a principality where religious ways have always been extremely hostile to the sacred scriptures. ( Is that clearer.)

Barack Obama is subject to speculation that he may be the 'son of perdition' /'man of lawlessness'identified in the bible.

It makes sense that such a background might combine with a Western education and background at this time. Given that the four empire prophecies of Daniel are thought to involve prophecies about Rome, it is perhaps worth noting that Obama's formal religious identity on his Western side ( his grandmother's family) is lapsed Catholic and before he was born, his Western mother abandoned the families Catholic practice for practices that are entirely hostile to the sacred scriptures.

Barack Obama, apparently in keeping with scriptures on the 'end times' is seeking to amalgamate religions and forms of devotion that are unacceptable to the God of the bible into a 'one world religion.' Most of the world's media and his many followers are misguidedly hailing him an 'enlightened being'.

The history of Tyre is interesting and relevant. It's history corresponds with scripture prophecies and presumably continues to do so. One ruler that modern history books name as a 'King of Tyre' in history was named 'Abibaal'. ( Meaning, my father is 'Baal'. ) In the bible it is recorded that the Israelites were forbidden all forms of worship of 'foreign gods' . As are all Christian believers today.
'Baal' worship represented worship of satan.

The Ezekiel prophecy names a 'Prince' of Tyre, ruling over the region.

Here, arab legislators speak out for Gaza from a meeting in Tyre. An interesting event.

We 'watch and pray'.

A comment on discussion about the Quran and its authorship.

From the bible we conclude that satan, a fallen angel merely, cannot see the future ( he attempts to deduce it by looking at the Lord's prophecies and unfolding events. ) The bible relates that he has worked hard at attempting to nullify the word of the Lord of the bible; he was fighting a losing battle, as he has proven to himself. In the last days ( see the bible scriptures) when 'transgressors have come to the full', he will perform an increase in false 'signs and wonders' that will lead many astray.

There is nothing in the bible ( the Old and New testament combined) that can be disproved or disconfirmed; its veracity is permanent and lasting. Prophecies are always confirmed as true and correct. (If there are mistakes in our interpretation of the Lord's prophecies, they are our mistakes). Every single biblical prophecy has come to pass, partly or fully, or is coming to pass. You do not find one bible prophet that has to apologise for himself or other prophets; there are no retractions in the bible.

Here, an article making a few interesting observations: a number of Muslims' admissal that 'satan inspired many parts of the Koran, or Quran', referring specifically to several verses.

'To summarize: Some of the passages that speak about Allah abrogating verses and replacing them with better ones leave open the question who was the author of the abrogated verses. However, one passage explicitly says that Allah replaced what Satan had introduced (S. 22:52), and in another passage about abrogation the immediate context commands Muhammad to take refuge from Satan when reciting the Quran, thereby suggesting that Satan regularly tries to take influence over Muhammad’s recitation and seeks to twist it, though it claims at the same time that Allah will replace some revelations with others (S. 16:98-101). Fact is that the only author of the abrogated verses that is named explicitly in the Quran is Satan.'

..and it begs the question; since verses are corrected, at later dates, who wrote the whole thing ? ( The suggestion being that he makes statements and needs to "correct himself"?) This appears to be a question people are asking.

False prophets and seriously misguided leaders who wrote/are cited in the Quran are openly admitted in the Quran. These false prophets and misguided leaders are openly described as being under satanic demonic influence. Quran 'prophets' often seem to fit the description of young men in a state of poor mental health, who describe their attempts to go to Allah for a solution to their problems:

Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400)

Narrated 'Aisha:
that Allah's Apostle was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy). Then (one day) he said, "O 'Aisha!) Do you know that Allah has advised me as to the problem I consulted Him about?" 'Aisha said, "O Allah's Apostle! What's that?" He said, "Two men came to me and one of them sat at my head and the other at my feet, and one of them asked his companion, 'What is wrong with this man?' The latter replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.' The former asked, 'Who has worked magic on him?' The latter replied, 'Labid bin Al-A'sam.' The former asked, 'With what did he work the magic?' The latter replied, 'With a comb and the hair, which are stuck to the comb, and the skin of pollen of a date-palm tree.' The former asked, 'Where is that?' The latter replied, 'It is in Dharwan.' Dharwan was a well in the dwelling place of the (tribe of) Bani Zuraiq. Allah's Apostle went to that well and returned to 'Aisha, saying, 'By Allah, the water (of the well) was as red as the infusion of Hinna, (1) and the date-palm trees look like the heads of devils.'

The part about the combs and the pollen and the heads of the palm trees may be dismissed as resembling a schizophrenic episode. The issue is, throughout the Quran, the authors of the Quran and the leaders of the Islam faith appear to be in a quandry because ( openly stated in the Quran) they continually perceive false, demonised prophets and leaders in their midst who are leading their people, writing the Quran script, and attempting to foretell the future.

So it is recommended that anyone with spiritual awareness or even plain common sense will dismiss the Quran entirely. Quote from the authors of the essay linked, adapted in two places for clarity:

"This leaves Muslims with two uncomfortable alternatives. If one accepts the assumption that the Quran is perfect and most eloquent in its language and formulation, then one must accept the statements of the Quran at face value, and one is left with the conclusion that some or even all of the abrogated passages came from Satan. On the other hand, if one assumes that this was not the intention of the author of the Quran, ( to be perfect) and one should not take the statements literally, it will be difficult to hold to the claim that the Quran is of divine origin on account of 'inimitable eloquence that is not possible for human beings to achieve'. The Quran is simply too human to be what it claims to be".

This 'Quran is merely written and inspired by human bunglers' solution runs counter to the widespread observation that there are many concluding verses in the Quran that appear diabolical that are thought to be partly responsible for inspiring men to commit henous terror/hate crimes. Evidently, deplorable verses in the Quran alone are not responsible for Islamist hate crimes; terror leaders feel they perceive the need for extensive training and indoctrination of their recruits ( the Quran is deployed as the indoctrination vehicle). To the point that many Muslims publicly disown many verses and the adjoining activity.
That the Quran is eloquent beyond the point of regular human expression ( in its original format) need be no surprise, here is one of the Lord's addresses to satan, whose eloquence and skills are well recorded:

`This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "`You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. [13] You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. [14] You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. [15] You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. [16] Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. [17] Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. [18] By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries......'

The suggestion that verses in the Quran should be defined as satanic is there for anyone to make. Christian opinions on the Quran and what it actually is, who the author of its inspiration is ( satan) are well known in most Muslim circles. Offence only seems to be taken where politicians seek to deploy the observation that satan is instigator and author (by inspiration) of the Quran to make out that people of Muslim descent are somehow of less value as human beings compared to others, less value to the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. The suggestion that they are of less value is false doctrine.


Jesus Christ went to the cross for all mankind; each and every person is of indescribable value to God, to the extent that he went to the cross in that person's place, and paid the penalty for their sins- so that every sinner who repents and puts their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, in God's forgiveness through Jesus, will have eternal life.

That fact ( above) demonstrates the extraordinary value of Jesus. More later- on the 'assurance of salvation' post, when I've got a moment. :-)

n.b. ( The 'son of perdition' or 'man of lawlessness'/'beast and his prophet' issues are examined in other places on this blog.)

Jesus is the good shepherd of the sheep, Barack Obama is not

This post relates to the 'Obama the Antichrist' question, and there are many more posts beneath, scroll down to find more on the blog.

This scripture applies to all of us:

'If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not is us.

If we confess our sins he ( the Lord) is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.'


Look at this Barack Obama film wherein 'The dictator spirit' does appear to be manifesting. It's his speech at the Civil Rights March of 1965 commemoration. (link now in.) Has there ever been another politician in history who got his own self declared birth date wrong by years? Taken with his own speech, Barack Obama states - while his eyes blaze with the dictator spirit- 'Don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma Alabama.' He states that after the 1965 march, Barack Hussein Obama JR ( himself) was born. Say again? Records he produces state 1961. Four years earlier. He describes his purported natural father as growing up a goat herder, in this context. Research still continues into the missing Barack Obama birth certificate, who the President Elect's natural father is if not Barack Hussein Obama sr., where he was born, and why his political affiliates are hiding detail.

'I stand on the shoulders of giants!' he shouts, 'in the dictator spirit'.

He distorts history in respect of Kennedy it appears. He seems to have been putting on a southern accent. He imitates it very well. Here's another clip from the same speech, the editor is comparing Barack Obama's speech against claims Barack made in his own book, ' Dreams from my father.' It is evident that the the book and the speech give a different account.
Defending 'human rights' ( interpreted as defending good and fair treatment of people) is good. You can defend yourself, and you should defend others . Look out for the vulnerable, on their behalf, always. Making claims about your 'rights' as a person and refusing to acknowledge your own regular need for repentance and forgiveness by God through Jesus is not the same at all, it's not good. There's a key difference there. As noted here earlier in the post 'The Top of the Mountain':

'There is surely everything good about defending human rights ( interpreted as defending good and fair treatment of poeple) provided you keep human rights out of politics. There are faithful Christian human rights organisations. Justice , and compassion for the oppressed human condition, were essential components of Jesus Christ's ministry. There is, though, according to scripture, everything amiss about demanding 'your automatic rights' as a sinful human being while dismissing your own need for love and forgiveness, while refusing to acknowledge your own need for humility and repentance before God. This, the bible indicates, is what the penultimate false Messiah 'the son of perdition' will encourage people to do.'

Obama shouts 'in the dictator spirit': 'Don't tell me I'm not coming home when I come to Selma Alabama!'

Here is an interview with the young man 'George' who claims that he is Obama's half brother by Barack Obama's purported natural father. A journalist states that he has seen this young man's birth certificate on which there is presumably written 'Barack Hussein Obama'. ( The name of Barack's purported natural father.) There is a resemblance between George and Barack. It is not striking, they have similar beauty in their facial features , but it it present. Neither Barack nor George look anything like the pictures of their purported natural father , whose features were not anything like either of theirs at all. It is curious that Barack does nothing to help this George- he should want to help him, if he were true to certain of his statements, and he might have done a lot more for political motives, to try and make it look as if he cared for this 'emergent half brother' if only to save face, yet he does nothing. Notice also that George seems to have been primed for the interview with the journalist, possibly by Barack himself, or Barack's Kenyan political associates. He states for example that he does not live in a slum, and that newspapers have exaggerated- which is obviously not true in the case.

There is yet another new book out on the Barack Obama question, 'Day of Perdition.' 'We almost stopped him.' The trailer is touching. I have not read this book or any comment about it, either by the authors themselves or anyone else, or reviews, I've merely looked at this trailer.

1. Thessalonians 5-11.
From the Apostle Paul, our brother in Christ Jesus:

1 Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 3 While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief; 5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; 6 so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober. 7 For those who sleep do their sleeping at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night. 8 But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. 11 Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing.


Have a good New Year.

'and as a helmet, the hope of salvation.'

Are you saved for always when you are truly born again?
The Lord doesn't make mistakes. 'Hope' of salvation as described by the Apostle Paul indicates 'assurance' of salvation. 'Hope' as in looking forward with joy. 'For God has not destined us for wrath', writes the Apostle Paul.
If you become a 'lost sheep' at any stage then the good shepherd, Jesus, comes to get you. Once saved, truly born again, always saved.

1 Peter 3:3-5 plainly says were are not kept by our good works, but by the power of God Himself:
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

John 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life."

2 Timothy 1:12 For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day.

Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ephesians 1:13 In Him you also [trusted], after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

It is also made plain that God's free gift of salvation is not a reason for us to sit about, failing to be diligent, failing to watch the times, failing to support and encourage other Christians , failing to forgive people, failing to pray, failing to confess sin, leaving the bible on the shelf, failing to engage in spiritual warfare etc.

Salvation is the Lord's free offer to everyone; the risen Lord Jesus paid a very high price, the highest there is.

'Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.' (Jesus.)

Notice that Paul tells Christians that they're sons of day, of the light, he invites us to rejoice in our salvation. Through all times, including the very hard times.

Form earth's wide bounds, to ocean's furthest coast
Through gates of pearl stream in the countless host
Singing to Father, Son and Holy Ghost
Alleluia

Being born again, having Jesus and Lord and saviour in your life, is the only way. This is explained in the bible, the true word of God.

Oprah Winfrey currently demonstrates in her regular talk and her exhibitions that she rejects and dismisses the Lord Jesus Christ. She began years ago with this. She argues against him whenever and wherever she can.

She states that a long time ago she went to Church and was attending a worship morning when she heard it said that the Lord is a jealous God. This scripture, ' The Lord your God is a jealous God' means that God is jealous for his people, of course. He guards them as 'the apple of his eye', he 'loves them with an everlasting love'. He is not jealous of them (this is what Oprah Winfrey is currently stating, that he is jealous of his people). Oprah states that it was at the moment that she heard this scripture 'The Lord your God is a jealous God' during a praise and worship session happening in a Church that she determined to reject the Lord Jesus Christ. She states that she was twenty seven years old at the time. Whether she will come to her senses and repent is not known.

She has for quite a while now been into the ethic: 'aim for higher consciousness mankind are all gods in the making who do not need salvation and must all blend together' (click) that is thought to be an integral part of an emergent 'New World religion'. She is currently advocating the way that the bible says leads to death, spiritual death, which means being cut off from God for eternity.Switch off the TV /radio/media outlets whenever she appears. Do not admire her in any way. Do not look to her. Or anyone who is advocating her type of doctrine. Do not have anything to do with the ' doctrine' she advocates; do not invest in it intellectually, spiritually or emotionally in any way. Have nothing to do with it. She is not a superstar to anyone but the lost, she is not great in the true sense of the term.




Oprah Winfrey is right at the front of the Barack Obama support. She is a billionaire and a media mogul. She allows nothing to stand in the way of her ambitions. Some say she would not have supported Barack Obama if he were not part black, thereby demonstrating that in her opinion a man should not be judged on the content of his character but instead, on the colour of his skin. (She denies this allegation but her attitude does seem to come across in her speeches at times.) Despite pretending to defend equal opportunities she has altered the face God gave her using plastic surgery, to fit a Hollywood prototype. She enjoys the fact that Barack Obama is the frontline advocate of antichrist teachings and repeatedly affirms her support of his so called 'enlightenment.' 'He is the one', she keeps exclaiming.

What drives her now is her worldly ambition and her personal contempt of Jesus. She is very taken with the emerging 'New World religion' and has been one of its main advocates.

She has many times openly demonstrated that she wanted to be thought of as a modern Jezebel, it's no secret that she has desperately wanted a world wide reputation for being seductive and adulterous to the point that she has experienced a stream of eating disorders, she has affirmed this on many occasions over the past decade. Her appetite has been unwavering for a long time.

'... If we are unable to control our eating habits, we are probably also unable to control other habits such as those of the mind (lust, covetousness, anger) and unable to keep our mouth from gossip or strife. We are not to let our appetites control us, but rather we are to have control over our appetites. (See Deuteronomy 21:20; 2 Peter 1:5-7; 2 Timothy 3:1-9; and 2 Corinthians 10:5.) The ability to say “no” to anything in excess—“self-control”—is one of the fruits of the Spirit common to all believers (Galatians 5:22).'

Oprah Winfrey better fits the older, full biblical interpretation of the term 'Jezebel' and not to her dismay at present apparently.

'Using the vowels traditionally used for this name by Hebrew readers, the Hebrew form of this name means "not exalted". Read with different vowels it can be understood as meaning "Where is the Prince?" ('ay zebul in Hebrew). In fact, early Syrian inscriptions from Ugarit demonstrate that "the Prince" (equivalent of Hebrew "Zebul") was a popular title for the storm god of the Phoenicians. The sentence "Where is the Prince?" is even found in Ugaritic literature. It is a form of invocation, calling on the god named to appear and act.
In other words, this Tyrian princess was given a name in praise of the chief god that she encouraged people to worship (whom the Hebrew Bible refers to mainly by the title "Baal" ).

Jezebel ordered the death of God's prophets of her era.

'Baal' is defined by the Old Testament of the bible as a 'foreign god'; worship of 'Baal' was worship of satan, 'Prince of this world', 'Ruler of darkness', 'Prince of demons' (among many biblical references). Worship of 'Baal' happened often despite the commandment never to worship 'foreign gods'. The Old Testament of the bible very clearly shows that serious negative consequences were experienced by Israelites who indulged in 'Baal' worship.

Here, a heartfelt response to Oprah from a woman who's countering Oprah's false doctrine.

Pastor Manning is an attention seeker. He has made one speculation worth looking at thus far, ( one very interesting one, in respect of Israel and the end times) but at other times he's been reprehensible. On the rare occasions that he brings an interesting matter to the fore or makes a relevant observation he usually renders it useless with nonsense and worse which he brings to his message. On one occasion he said that he himself was the 'last hope for black people'. (Of course that's a lie, and a mistake a pastor should not make. All people have one true hope, Jesus the Messiah.)

The Lord surely tells this 'Pastor' nothing at all. Pastor Manning reads the newspapers. Take no notice of Pastor Manning's pontifications preceded by 'thus saith the Lord'. The Lord is surely telling him to repent. Manning is preposterous to suggest that he is 'God's prophet in respect of the Obama question'; Manning is not a true prophet.

The prophets who speak of the 'son of perdition' are in the bible.

The Obama question (the question of whether he is the 'Antichrist?) is being talked of the world over and millions of people are commenting. Pastor manning is advertising himself in respect of the Obama question in order to obtain a platform; and his motive appears to be self serving.

Pastor Manning stated that Obama would not get in and that this was prophecy from the Lord. Obama got in.

Pastor Manning has many times stated that he speaks on behalf of the Lord while saying things that would never, ever, come from the Lord. The Lord is not a racist. ( Pastor Manning is.) The Lord does not use language of the type that Pastor Manning has been using, ever. See your bibles. The Lord righteously rebukes, he gives his word.
Again here. And here. And here. And here. He is righteous when he rebukes.

As has been pointed out by many, Manning is prepared, a lot of the time, to make false prophecies, ( he often begins his tirades with 'thus saith the Lord') and to spend a great deal of his waking hours constructing youtube tirades to promote his sorry self to fame- or rather notoriety. He apparently thinks it's clever, and funny, riding on the current world situation to make a sensationalist exhibition of himself, but it definitely is not.

Here is a helpful link in respect of 'the false prophet', with helpful quotes from the bible.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are savage wolves. ( Some versions say 'ravenous wolves.')

We are living in the New Testament era. Believers constantly experience the Lord's grace and forgiveness.
God wants all men to be saved, and he is 'abundant in loving kindness'.

Pastor Manning's regular behaviour assisted Barack Obama, a very serious 'wolf in sheep's clothing', in gaining many followers, and he is accountable.

Barack Obama and 'Community Organisation.'

This video here, shows some rare clips of Adolf Hitler that appear to validate the Christian claims of his time that he was 'possessed by satan himself'. As did all Hitler's acts. This video also compares Hitler and Obama and is another to suggest that Obama, who will be head of the free world and his 'New World Order' is smoother, more sophisticated, and in appearance, more calculating than Hitler.

This T-shirt has a good emblem (click), which comes recommended here. :-)

While the candidates were running for the presidency, it was suggested:

'Jesus is a community organiser, Pilate was a governor.' It's being said over in America. Apparently to cast a slur on Palin for her office of governor in modern America. Susan Sarandon appears to have been among those who started it off. The reaction to this has been that Jesus is the true Messiah, therefore not a worldly 'community organizer'. Jesus was not a politically motivated community organizer ( as Barack appears to be- he is also a political radical). Barabas was. ( Barabus was also a radical). When Jesus was before Pontious Pilate, the latter asked the crowd of they'd like to have one of them released. The ranting crowd shouted for Barabus.

Here, Barack Obama mentions 'Muslim faith'. He makes claims to different faiths. He had instruction in Islam.

A note on Barack's "community organization" skills from a blogger here, who feels that Obama's respect for satanist community organisers of the past is suspect. Barack Obama further respects satanists who refer to satan as 'Lucifer'. This blogger complains about Barack being edited and defended by the press whenever they feel it's necessary. (I do not share this bloggers views about the evangelical Church. I support all true Christian believers in Jesus, I love his Church.)

People who refer to satan as 'Lucifer' are mistaken. ( Exception the one incidence where he addressed by the prophet Isaiah as Lucifer. Once . Here, go figure.) Here's a dictionnary definition providing scriptures for you to check. According to the bible, satan is fallen, condemned, punished, humiliated, cast out of heaven entirely; since man was expelled from the garden of Eden, he's tied to this world's time, the buible explains that after creating havoc in the last days he will be bound for a thousand years; at the end of the world's time, time as the world knows it, he is permanently punished and locked away. He has no future, he is powerless before Jesus; since he fell he has always been referred to as 'satan'. In many bible translations, the apostles don't even give a capital letter to the beginning of his name.

Here is a current discourse about Barack and his community organization.

Here's an interesting clip from Hannity and co, 'Obama's Radicalism' showing his radical connections . Barack Obama probably got into Harvard University thanks to recommendations from Islam extremists, and there is more info on his 'community organization' training. All radical extremists with far out views. Part 1 here.
And Part 2. and Part 3. and Part 4.

n.b. when watching this, bear in mind that Jesus is indeed a liberator for the oppressed (there is one point in the video where this is denied). Don't let anyone tell you different. Click here for the scripture.
Jesus is Not a politically motivated liberator, no, never has been and never will be. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

He came to set us free from sin and death and the kingdom of satan's destruction.

'King James Bible
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised..'

A lot of people didn't like his message. They wanted a Messiah King who'd set them free from their various oppressors through political means; the Sanhedrin wanted someone who'd free them from the Romans, many others wanted a King who'd use political force to free them from the Roman's and the Sanhedrin alike. ..

That wasn't Jesus' mission.

Here are a number of videos relating to the 'Saul Alinsky' issue.

Past, present, and questions

Numerous Popes of the past have been heavily corrupted.

It is thought that the Roman empire and its history is one of the four empires in the four empire prophecies of Daniel.

The activities of Rome in the earlier years after the Lord Jesus Christ's time on earth and behaviours of corrupted early Popes and those who followed their orders gave rise to the most serious accusation there is about Papacy generally, which has been proposed by many scholars ever since.

The Vatican has advocated unrighteous governance and/or engaged in politics encouraging a New World order/ One World Government many times. The 20th century saw rising fascism in Rome as the politically motivated City of the era demonstrated enthusiasm for the World Order 'proposed' by Adolf Hitler. Much of the Vatican City area is heavily decorated with fascist associated signs and symbols , try checking it out next time you visit.


Opponents of the Papal order throughout the ages have not always been selfless in motive; far from it.

This post relates to the 'Obama the Antichrist?' question.

Here, an essay investigating the question 'What is the abomination of desolation?' These authors appear to advocate 'watching and praying' in the last days according to the instructions in scripture. They investigate the four empire prophecies of Daniel.
They remind us that a prophetic word from the Lord can speak about more than one situation. They suggest that we can infer that a relevant Daniel prophecy may refer to more than one desecration of the Jerusalem temple (and attacks on Jerusalem and Israel).

"Many scholars recognize duality ('many layers' when in comes to prophecy and 'world prophecy' would be perhaps be a better way to put it) in Bible prophecy, meaning that many prophecies have an initial fulfillment as well as a later one. Jesus Himself alluded to this principle when He cited the prophecy of "the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet" (Matthew 24:15). The Jews of His day well understood that Antiochus Epiphanes had desecrated the temple, fulfilling this Daniel prophecy some 200 years earlier. Yet Jesus made it clear this prophecy would be fulfilled again....... "

The desecration of the Temple in Jerusalem that these authors mention came before Jesus' reference to the 'abomination of desolation' that Daniel had spoken of, so it can't be suggested that the Daniel prophecy was entirely fulfilled by the work of Epiphanes, obviously. It can be suggested that the 'abomination of desolation' that Jesus referred to infers the presence and work of more than one tyrannical demagogue figure on the Jerusalem temple and in Israel. The Lord Jesus' words suggest that the Daniel prophecies would be entirely fulfilled after the gospel had been preached to all the nations (which it now has been).

The reference to the 'son of perdition' in the Thessalonions scripture, the 'man of lawlessness' who is to emerge in that last days, appears to refer to one specific figure, though many of similar disposition apparently will precede him. It appears to refer to one man. One penultimate ( world significant) demagogue figure, who will 'sit in the temple of God, proclaiming that he is God.' According to regular interpretation of scripture, in the 'end times' the temple will be rebuilt, then desecrated, and there will be terrible tribulation in Jerusalem and in the rest of the world and persecution of Israel and the Church. 'Let them that are in Judea flee to the mountains'....

Here, another essay by the authors cited above, 'when will these things happen?'

Today I met a teacher who strongly opposes the view that there will be a 'son of perdition', ( 'Antichrist') in these last days. He believes that Papacy of the past is the 'son of perdition' and the antichrist' defined in the bible and therefore refuses to question Barack Obama or participate in discussions.

He refuses to research false Messiah President elect Barack Obama, new head of the emergent 'New World Order' in any way.

Two different schools of thought are being identified by some in respect of the 'son of perdition' (the 'Antichrist'). 'The historical view', and 'The futurist view.' The definitions seem a little clumsy, but they're being used by some. The historical view points specifically to Rome and the Papacy.


There doesn't seem to be anything essentialy 'futuristic' about the so named 'futuristic view', which simply acknowledges that the 'son of perdition' ( often referred to in modern times as the 'Antichrist') is to appear in the last days as scripture states. But we'll use the definition in this post for the sake of clarity.

Both 'views' state that there will be the second coming of Jesus as defined by scripture, the timing of which 'Only the father knows'.

First the Thessalonians scripture again.

"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come except that there be a falling away first and a man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."

Here is the Thessalonians scripture in all its English translations .Here, here and here.

Most translations of the scripture quoted above state 'son of perdition' rather than 'man of lawlessness.' (This same 'son of perdition' is identified as 'man of lawlessness' in other bible scriptures.)

A very brief outline of the two so named 'views' below, looking specifically at certain aspects of each .

The 'historical view':

This 'view' suggests that the 'son of perdition' is defined by Papacy and has therefore come and gone, ( some advocates say he is still with us in the form of the Pope.). It makes reference to specific corrupt Popes, who, it is suggested, represent the 'the son of perdition' more than others. Some of its roots lie in Lutheran teaching.

Commentary from the Methodist Wesley is also referred to. He recognized that the 'son of perdition' had not appeared yet, in his day, though certain corrupted Popes had come to the fore:

2:3 Unless the falling away - From the pure faith of the gospel, come first. This began even in the apostolic age. But the man of sin, the son of perdition - Eminently so called, is not come yet. However, in many respects, the Pope has an indisputable claim to those titles.

We can see that Wesley wanted the specific definition 'son of perdition' to apply to the Popes to the point that he was prepared to adapt scripture to fit his thesis. 'Eminently so called, is not come yet.' He effectively wrote: 'well it's true enough that the one penultimate false Messiah, the 'son of perdition' does not seem to be here yet, so let's treat the definition as a loose definition and treat Popes as the figure.'

Early proponents of the 'historic view' here. Various Popes are accused of having stated that they were supreme authority in place of Jesus Christ. A certain corrupted Pope is accused of having stated 'what am I, if I am not God?'

The 'futurist view':

There have been many antichrist figures in history. Many false Messiahs. ( People claiming to be Messiahs/Christs in place of Jesus are of course antichrist.) Many religious and political leaders, sinful men born of union between a man and a woman have claimed that they were Messiahs and the answer to the world's problems. Some have applied great brutality and stipulated that no one should trade without their approval.
Yet, at a time when other Revelation prophecies appear to be being fulfilled, there will be a penultimate false Messiah, the 'son of perdition', (often referred to as the 'Antichrist') who will force the status of a One World Government. A 'man of lawlessness' is to be revealed who 'opposes and exalts himself over everything that is called God or that is worshiped'..... ( see all the scriptures relating to this 'son of perdition'.) He will 'sit in the Temple of God, proclaiming that he is God.' There will have been a falling away in the Churches worldwide which will continue as people all over the world from all backgrounds ( all except those who remain faithful to Jesus) run out after the penultimate false Messiah, the 'son of perdition', (the 'Antichrist.')
The 'son of perdition' will deceive then turn on many.
'By peace he shall destroy many.'
There will be tribulation in the 'last days'.
At some point, the 'mark of the beast' or 'the number of his name' will be enforced.
( There is more to it all than this, see the bible and the discussions. This brief outline is just for the purposes of a comparison between two current 'views'.)

The teacher I spoke to this morning feels convinced of what he calls the 'historical view' in fact he's just about to publish a book on it. He says he's been researching the matter for thirty years. ( So he began his research in the late seventies).

He opposes what he dismisses as the 'futurist view.' His opinion seems to be a marginal opinion.

Advocates of the 'historical view' (the view as outlined above) appear to state that Popes are the 'man of lawlessness' / 'son of perdition' who 'set himself up in the Temple of God proclaiming that he was God'. If so, the Vatican Church of these Popes' era would need to be defined as the 'Temple of God.' (This would seem to be in conflict with the prophet Daniel's apparent reference to the Temple at Jerusalem).

They often suggest a certain Pope ( or the Papacy) might have fulfilled the one scripture:

'He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God'.

'Historical view' advocates usually suggest that the definition 'the son of perdition' applies to a collection of Popes, rather than just one man. 'The Papacy.' They say this is partly because some titles different Popes have used throughout the ages add up to six hundred threescore and six or thereabouts using types of deduction.

Earlier, we looked at how Emperor Neron Cesar's name adds up to six hundred three score and six (666) using certain types of deduction. We looked at the suggestion that the Roman Empire, those ancient persecutors of both Jews and Christians, somehow brought about the current world leadership state that is bringing in the New World Order. ( The global government).

The Thessalonians scripture defenition ( and other scripture defenitions related) does appear to apply to one man. Wesley admitted it. 'The son of perdition.' 'A man of lawlessness.' He will precede the second coming of Jesus and a rise at an apparently well defined time.
This 'one man' is referred to in several scriptures. The scriptures do appear specific. One penultimate false Messiah. The 'son of perdition.' By no stretch of the imagination or wishful thinking can you make a reference to one man a reference to a collection of men. (Though Wesley clearly tried.)

Throughout history there have been many antichrists. This is confirmed by the apostles who warn in the bible that ...

'1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour. Just as you heard that an antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour.'

Over the past two thousand years there have been many figures who have falsely claimed that they were Christs ( Messiahs) and many have forced people to submit to their various orders. (Including corrupt Popes.)
However not one of history's false Messiahs ever achieved world governance. No false Messiah has ever achieved it until now. ( Barack Obama is in the process of achieving world governance, it is thought.) The Revelation scriptures seem to suggest that a 'son of perdition' ( 'Antichrist') will achieve world governance and will head up a One World Government.

The scriptures suggest he will 'set himself up in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.'

Then there is the scripture: 'And he forces all, small and great, bond and free, rich and poor, ...' See the full scripture here.

This scripture strongly implies that the forcing of the mark of the beast will happen through a One World Government with control over people from all types of situations.

Many people see the 'Temple of God' specified in the Thessalonians scripture to mean the Temple in Jerusalem.

Receiving the 'mark of the beast' or 'the number of his name' as defined by the book of Revelation is a sign of definitive devotion to satan that will ensure that a person is rejected by God. The bible Revelation scripture is very clear on this.

'Historical view' advocates suggests that the 'mark of the beast' is the bible's way of branding someone who submits to a corrupt order governed by an antichrist figure ( they often cite corrupted Popes). According to the 'historical view' the 'mark of the beast' ( or the 'number of his name') is not a physical mark placed on a person's right hand or forehead. Their reasoning is: Christians are described in the bible as having the seal of God upon them. This is a spiritual, not a visible, seal; therefore, advocates of the 'historical view' suggest, the 'mark of the beast' must be a spiritual mark merely. Rather than a physical and spiritual one.

The 'futurist view' acknowledges that the 'mark' of the beast is indeed a spiritual mark and specifies that the 'mark of the beast' or 'the number of his name' is a specific, physical, visible mark that people will receive on their foreheads and their hands, enforced via a One World government. An unmistakeable mark. A physical mark and a spiritual mark. It is a mark that will be enforced and consequently received by many people in contempt of the Leviticus scripture:
'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead or make any marks upon you: I am the LORD".
If there were no danger in receiving such cuttings and such marks, the Lord would not have warned against it, it is argued.

The bible appears to specify one specific, irrefutable 'mark of the beast' that will be enforced globally in the 'last days.'

(Historical view proponents have made some interesting observations about false Messiahs of the past.)

The 'historical view', since it concludes that Rome ( incorporating Roman Catholicism) is the definitive 'beast', and Pope's are the 'son of perdition', apparently implies that anyone who ever worshiped an idol which had been worked into the Catholic Church or a corrupted Pope wouldn't have been forgiven had they sought God's forgiveness through Jesus , which is surely false. It seems to suggest that everyone who ever submitted to the authority of a corrupt Pope, including all Priests and Bishops, somehow received the irrevocable ' mark of the beast.'

Some 'Historical view' proponents do not distinguish between the corrupted Popes of the Vatican and the remainder of the Catholic Church and loosely suggest that every member of the Catholic Church, via the Papacy, is by definition antichrist. Given the amount of genuine Christians in the modern Catholic Church, ( eg link here) all with their own opinions, including opinions on awful historical Popes and other problems there have been, ( e.g. the idol worship that has got into the Catholic church and associated suspect spiritual manifestations, coteries and worse etc. ) such a suggestion is clearly incorrect and inappropriate.

Many Catholic Christians have come out against Obama. Particularly in respect of the Infanticide issue. 'Mr. Obama's position is heartless.'


'Historical view' advocates either dismiss current events that seem to be happening in fulfillment of scripture prophecy such as the 'New World Order', ( Global governance) the coming 'cashless society' and the global warming crisis, or suggest that the biblical defined 'son of perdition' has nothing to do with end time events that apparently occur in fulfillment of Revelation prophecy, having already emerged a long time ago as the Papacy ( or, if pushed, one specific Pope.) They tend to ignore 'end time' events and current affairs.

The 'historical view' implies that one religious institution ( the Catholic Church) has had a monopoly on 'false Messiahs/false Christs'. That's surely false.

Corruption is not exclusive to the Catholic Church Institution. The Protestant Church Institution, (where as in the Catholic Church, there have been many sincere Christians who do not revere false leaders or idols ) has often practiced corruption.


It was founded not because Henry VIII was concerned about the 16th century malpractices and influences of Rome but because he wanted to commit adultery flagrantly and do away with everyone who stood in his way, beheading them all if necessary. Whatever Rome may have been rightfully accused of doing at the time, ( a great deal), the Church of England was founded in the spirit of adultery and rebellion by royal psychopath and politician Henry VIII.

Jesus said: 'whoever divorces his except for infidelity, and marries another, commits adultery.' How hard was that for leaders from either denomination to understand.



The true Church, born again believers in Christ Jesus, who obey his commandments, are made innocent by Jesus, being forgiven by God through Jesus.

Neither Protestant nor Catholic Church Institutions have an innocent history. Far from it. Nor do any other religious institutions.

Not one politically motivated Pope in history ever managed anything like global governance.

Cult leaders are well defined as false Christs ( false Messiahs).

Many political figures of world history are well defined as 'false Messiahs' . Their various eras of their rising and their rule, have been filled with 'wars and rumors of wars.' Wars and rumours of wars have not always depended on the emergence of such people.

The words of Jesus:

Take heed lest any man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying 'I am Christ', and deceive many. And when you shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, do not be troubled, for such must needs be, but the end shall not be yet. For nations shall rise against nations, and there shall be earthquakes in diverse places, and famines and troubles; these are the beginnings of sorrows. But take heed to yourselves, for they shall deliver you up to councils, and in the synagogues you shall be beaten, and you shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, as a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published to all the nations. And when they lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what you shall speak, for whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, speak it, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Ghost. Now brother shall betray brother to death, and the father the son, and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. And you shall be hated of all men for my names' sake, but he that endures to the end shall be saved. But when you shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing where it ought not, then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains.....'

Jesus is clear here. As are the rest of the bible scriptures that specifically refer to 'the son of perdition', the 'man of lawlessness'. There will be false Christs ( false Messiahs) ( Jesus does highlight those who state that they come in his name) and 'the abomination of desolation' which will occur after the gospel is preached to all the nations. The apostles seem to refer to the 'penultimate false Messiah' as the 'son of perdition.'
(Compare the words of Jesus with the Thessalonians scripture.)

Here, the blog 'Obama the Antichrist' presents a very strong case for Obama's candidacy as the 'son of perdition' (popualrly referred to in modern times as the 'Antichrist'.)

One commenter there makes the following suggestion:

.....the Roman empire had two branches; Europe and the Middle East: only one of those performs beheading that the Book of Revelation speaks about being the punishment for not accepting the 'mark'.

The teacher I spoke with this morning is passionately keen on 'the historical view' as outlined above. This is because he's been into it for years. He refuses to consider that the history of Rome and Jerusalem, corruption in the Papacy and other aspects of four empire history which appear to correspond with Old Testament scripture prophecy are relevant to end time discussions- that there is indeed a suggestion from the Lord that there would be many 'false Christs', and at the end of times, prior to the return of the Lord Jesus, a 'son of perdition', a penultimate false Messiah.

The wife of the teacher who places faith in the 'historical view' (as outlined here in this post) has apparently received one of those 'gold teeth' that have been the subject of dilemma and conversation. About three months ago apparently.

All in all the Christian commentary on this 'gold tooth' and 'gold dust' phenomenon sweeping through many Churches is not positive. Discussion about it has been happening everywhere, in Churches and on the web.

I asked to see the tooth that she said had appeared out of the blue. It is a beautiful great chunk of raw gold in her mouth, the shape of a tooth. It's replaced her old tooth entirely. It's raw gold, like old gold, it's certainly beautiful. It looks a little bronze-like, but it is gold. Raw gold, solid gold.

There is a lot of talk about how this sort of event , (the 'gold tooth' phenomenon), amounts to the false ' signs and wonders' the bible warns will occur in the last days and lead many astray. Here, an article. (the title of his blog is not too good; remember it is Jesus who protects his flock according to his promise and he is able to do so entirely.)

Here's some experienced comment on the 'gold tooth' and 'gold dust' phenomenon:

'For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.’ The bible teaches that just before the Lord returns there is to be an increase in signs and wonders that will lend themselves to the deception, if possible of the very elect. The Antichrist arises in such an atmosphere!
2 Th 2:9-12 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10. and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12. in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
To know the source of such supernatural activity all one needs to know is if the Scriptures are being taught accurately. The fact that God nowhere in scripture confirmed his word with such strange manifestations ought to be concern enough.'

What justifies the sudden appearance of a 'gold tooth' or 'gold dust' in a world that's largely starving for justice and food? It doesn't seem anything like the miracles of Jesus. Jesus' miracles were, are, always for healing, deliverance, provision, advancing the kingdom of God.

The sudden appearance of a 'gold tooth' is a little suggestive of Pharaoh's magical performers ( whose 'signs and wonders' were of satanic origin).

The bible uses the term 'false signs and wonders' to describe satanic activity in the 'last days'.

'There will be....'false signs and wonders'... 'to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.'

This term 'signs and wonders' is almost never used for Jesus' miracles. There's one reference: hebrews ":1-6.

The term 'sign' is used however with reference to Jesus. Here. There were 'signs' given , a number. Many are said to have put their faith in him as a result. (click)

John the Baptist openly stated that Jesus is the son of God. Peter, Jesus' disciple, openly stated that Jesus is the son of God.

Jesus stated 'this generation is a wicked generation that seeks for a sign'. (About many in the generation that were around during his ministry on earth.) Presumably, the emphasis is on the 'seeks.' Apparently many in that generation were continually seeking after supernatural confirmation that he was the Messiah instead of focusing on his ministry, his teachings, his mission. (He seems to have been referring to people seeking after signs of the supernatural kind). Their attitude seems to have been that Jesus, the son of God, was under some obligation to prove himself to them, which he was not.

Instead, the Heavenly Father revealed Jesus to whom he chose. ( Still does, see the scriptures.)

Jesus' miracles took place in order to advance the Kingdom of God. ( Still do.) Raising Lazarus from the dead: this was a clear indication of who he is, further confirmation of his true claim that he is indeed the true Messiah.

This scripture is helpful:

The full text of Mark 16:17,18, which records words that Jesus spoke to His eleven disciples after He rose from the dead, reads, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

It is being suggested that Jesus's miracles are nothing like the 'gold teeth appearing in people's mouths' phenomenon. And that these 'gold teeth' and 'gold dust' incidences are perhaps better identified as 'signs and wonders' of the last days of the type that people will apparently run out after.

Here is a youtube video showing a couple who claim in a service that gold teeth suddenly miraculously appeared in their mouths.

Another here. Quite a lot of people seem to be going after the 'sign and wonder' that the 'gold tooth' manifestation appears to be, and don't seem interested in checking the origin of the phenomenon.

The lady whose gold tooth I saw, is not a woman to abandon caution and run out after 'signs and wonders'. Far from it. It appeared in her mouth all the same. Apparently, it's not just happening to people who are obviously just after a quick 'sign and wonder.'

It's the origin of the 'gold tooth' phenomenon that's subject of concern in many places.

Look at the Apostle Paul, and his visits to the early Churches he founded, recorded in the New Testament. Would he have burst into participant applause at the sight of people rejoicing over a gold tooth in someone's mouth or do you think the congregation would have got a rebuke? I think they would have got a rebuke.

Nothing like this 'gold tooth' and 'gold dust' business ever happened in the early Church described in the bible.

The Church this teacher belongs to is very gentle, and there are many diligent and honest people there. It's connected with many other Churches and it's not out on its own or engaging in any foolishness. Some people there have had bible teaching and Christian experience for thirty years. Yet, the 'gold tooth' suddenly appeared in this lady's mouth.

Most people believe that the 'gold dust' and 'gold tooth' business should be rejected by the Church of true believers in Christ Jesus. I have deleted a previous essay I linked to at this space, as due to the author's eagerness to put down the 'gold dust and gold teeth' phenomena, there was too much personalised objection in her essay about 'revival' generally. The Lord can revive people when and where he wants, that's clear scripture, and 'in the last days' he 'pours out his spirit' according to the bible. Thus, no report of an outpouring of the Lord's spirit or revival in a certain area should be necessarily written off as 'false', obviously.
It's important though to remember that the scriptures clearly describe a 'falling away' in the Churches and a 'man of sin' being revealed, the 'son of perdition' in the 'last days'; not a great worldwide revival of the kind being eagerly awaited in so many Churches a decade ago.

The times indicate that the Lord is true in his promises and biblical prophecies. (Also: the essay I linked to at this place in the post previously, indicated in one place that it is impossible for a believer on earth to see the Lord Jesus's face, which according to the bible is not true. I had not seen the incorrect statement in that essay earlier. Jesus appeared to his disciples many times after the resurrection. )

Barack Obama is an obvious political antichrist figure to be observed very carefully. It's not a research breakthrough. Anyone who's failed to notice this about Mr. Obama is either fast asleep, submersed in problems to the extent they don't have time to check him out, distracted otherwise, or categorically refusing to examine his case with an open mind for whatever reason. And a great many are following him with great enthusiasm. Often blind enthusiasm.

As the world and the attitutude of many men and women gets worse many people advocate an increase of sin and self serving . It remains to be seen how many more such people are still to run out after Obama.

'Historical view' researchers have turned up some interesting discoveries about historical events and false Messiahs . However 'The historical view' ( as outlined in this post) with respect to the 'son of perdition' appears to try to adapt the scriptures to fit a thesis in order to specifcally focus on condemning the Roman Catholic Church past and present. It seems steeped in Protestant Institution history and fails to take an objective overview.

During the course of its history Rome and the Catholic Church has been unfiltered and riddled with with politics, corruption, brutality, false gods, freemasonry, signs and symbols, etc.
The list is long and discussions are extensive.

Rome and the Catholic Church is not alone in that.

This teacher has invited me to one of his courses. I will probably go to a couple of evenings to hear more information about politically motivated Popes of the past, and see some more detail. This will help me study the way in which these have contributed (which they have) to the New World Order ( One World Government) we are all now facing.

This New World order is being brought in by Barack Obama whose campaign resulting in his status as President Elect involved a catalogue of blasphemy. He is an obvious cult leader, an obvious false Messiah. He has falsely stated that he comes in Jesus' name on a number of occasions and he seems to be 'opposing and exalting himself over everything that is called God or that is worshiped'. It has been happening worldwide. A great many people worldwide are focusing their worship on Barack Obama.
Here, an article on 'the world's reaction to his win'. One of many.

'For all the saints' is widely thought to be one of the best hymns to come out of the Anglican Church, written by a genuine believer in Jesus .
'All the Saints'.
All born again believers in Jesus who love him and keep his commandments who Jesus is sure to bring safely home. It is sung in churches everywhere.

Form earth's wide bounds, to ocean's furthest coast
Through gates of pearl stream in the countless host
Singing to Father, Son and Holy Ghost
Alleluia

Best wishes for the New year

I hope you had a good day. I had a beautiful Christmas, the best in a long time.

A lot of us in Church gathered together. Great fellowship, good discussion, care and prayer, God's love.

Did you notice that the Queen, in her speech, pointedly, stoically refused to commend the winner of the American election or indeed refer in any direct way to the election at all, and ended with a statement recommending that people draw strength from Jesus of Nazareth. That was good.

She did not present the full gospel message at all times however, at times she seemed to be presenting the gospel in what Christian writer C.S Lewis called an 'all things in moderation style' typical of a lukewarm C of E coterie. ( Down to her scriptwriters, doubtless.) Some C of E representatives are so keen to try to deny Jesus' miracles in order to impress stale old academics that it is they who shock their parishioners with their unbelief, and not vice versa. (This seems to be happening quite a bit today, as well as in the past).

Here is Christian writer C.S Lewis on the matter. In his book on tempters and their plotting, a senior demon writes to a junior demon, lecturing him again and again on how to ruin a Christian's life. ( It's a good book, the demons fail in all their efforts in the truly converted Christian's case).

"As always, the first step is to keep knowledge out of his mind. Do not let him suspect the law of undulation. Let him assume that the first ardours of his conversion might have been expected to last, and ought to have lasted, forever, and that his present dryness is an equally permanent condition. Having once got this misconception well fixed in his head, you may then proceed in various ways. It all depends on whether your man is of the desponding type who can be tempted to despair, or of the wishful-thinking type who can be assured that all is well. The former type is getting rare among the humans. If your patient should happen to belong to it, everything is easy. You have only got to keep him out of the way of experienced Christians (an easy task now-a-days), to direct his attention to the appropriate passages in scripture, and then to set him to work on the desperate design of recovering his old feelings by sheer will-power, and the game is ours. If he is of the more hopeful type, your job is to make him acquiesce in the present low temperature of his spirit and gradually become content with it, persuading himself that it is not so low after all. In a week or two you will be making him doubt whether the first days of his Christianity were not, perhaps, a little excessive. Talk to him about "moderation in all things". If you can once get him to the point of thinking that "religion is all very well up to a point", you can feel quite happy about his soul. A moderated religion is as good for us as no religion at all—and more amusing. "

The scriptures explain that The Lord ensures that true believers who put their faith in him, come through. Here, the Apostle Paul, to the early Church.

'Being confident of this very thing, that he which has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.'

The Queen ended her speech with a statement recommending that people look to Jesus and draw strength from Jesus. That was good.

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Here's an interesting clip from Hannity and co, 'Obama's Radicalism' showing his radical connections . Barack Obama probably got into Harvard University thanks to some sort of push from Islam extremists, and there is more info on his 'community organization' training. All from radical extremists with far out views. Part 1 here.
And Part 2. and Part 3. and Part 4.

n.b. when watching this, bear in mind that Jesus is indeed the great redeemer and liberator for the oppressed (there is one point in the videos where there seems to be confusion about that fact ). Don't let anyone tell you different. Click here for the scripture and the different bible translations.

Jesus is Not a politically motivated liberator, no. He never has been, and he is 'the same yesterday, today and forever'. During his ministry here on earth he refused to get involved in politics.

He came to set us free from sin and death and the kingdom of satan's destruction.

'King James Bible
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised..'

A lot of people didn't like Jesus' message, it didn't suit their political purposes. And they thought their purposes were pressing, exceptional. They wanted a King who'd set them free from their various oppressors through political means; the Sanhedrin wanted someone who'd free them specifically from the Romans, by force; many others wanted a King who'd use political force to free them from the Romans and the Sanhedrin alike. ..

That wasn't Jesus' mission.

You can pray to the Lord to be released from oppressors in this world, to be delivered from their oppression. You can. The answer to prayer won't be politics. Or a politician. See the Acts of the Apostles, and many more scriptures in the bible.

This is beautiful. Paul equates being free with being an apostle for Christ.

Enjoy your Christmas time

I am taking a break from blog writing now for the Christmas period. I have put a few additions into posts, relevant to interesting issues; scroll down.

If the whole Western business, the whole commercial Christmas effort gets you down, relax.

Not because Barack thoroughly intends to get rid of all previous states and culture traditions. ( He apparently does.)

Jesus was not born to us mid winter. When he was conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary it was probably mid winter, since he was probably born mid Autumn.

'And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.

He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.

And of his kingdom there shall be no end.'

Here, a site page explaining the matter of Jesus' birth time in detail.

Mary and Joseph , at the time of Jesus' birth, were rejected by an indifferent, self absorbed world to the point Mary nearly had no where to give birth. No one would help them.
Not even when Joseph pointed out that Mary was about to give birth. They had to go knocking from door to door, everyone turned them down.

It must have been hurtful and bewildering.

Eventually, an innkeeper consented to lend them his stable.

The sort of response they were greeted with when in need might remind you of much of the world we live in today.

Throughout Israel there had been excitement over the coming of the Messiah to the point that Herod, the tyrannical political ruler, had been jealous and frightened about it. He did not understand the prophecies about Jesus and his mission. He was a tyrannical politician to the core.

He believed a 'King of the Jews' would come; he wondered what it all meant.

Jesus was born in a stable, as there had been 'no room at the inn.' Mary will have been carefully tended, and protected every moment by God.

After Jesus was born Mary tenderly placed him in a manger there. It will have been a little wooden one, filled with new, clean hay.

In Chapter 2, Verse 7, we read: "And she brought forth her first-born son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn."

The scriptures indicate that throughout the Old Testament era, satan tried to disrupt the advent of the Messiah. He did not want Jesus to be born to us.

As soon as Jesus was born, he did not want him to live.

He did not want him to continue to fulfill the promises, the prophecies.

The Son of God had come to earth in spite all satan's efforts to prevent it, all recorded throughout the Old Testament. satan knew his plans against the salvation of mankind would be forever defeated if Jesus fulfilled his ministry and mission on earth.

He started in straight away, as soon as Jesus was born, trying to attack the newborn baby Jesus and attacking others without scruple of any kind. Herod, in a tyrant's rage, sought to have every male infant under the age of two years old in Bethlehem killed.

The effort to annihilate Jesus failed; Mary and Joseph were warned. They knew the direction of the Lord because they put their faith in him.

.... behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

Matthew 2.13

The little family were probably only a few days out of the little stable just before Herod's soldiers raged in and rampaged the place.

God's timing was perfect. The young couple left Bethlehem carrying Jesus; Mary on the back of a donkey. Mary must have been wide eyed, amazed, horrified at what Herod wanted to do. Horrified that anyone would want to destroy the baby Jesus. Horrified that her family had been threatened in such a way.

She knew what it was all about.

In her arms she held the saviour of the world.

She already knew her baby was the prophesied Messiah. She was living in prophecy fulfillment; all about her, she saw prophecy being fulfilled.

I wonder what she must have felt, riding out of Bethlehem.
The bible doesn't say whether Mary and Joseph knew exactly what Herod was planning in his effort to find and destroy Jesus. It looks like they didn't, at the time of escaping.

We are just told that Mary and Joseph escaped with baby Jesus, having been warned in a dream that Herod was seeking to kill Jesus.

And later they heard about what Herod had done, they must have done.

King James Bible
'In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and refusing to be comforted, because they were no more'.

Leaving Bethlehem there will have been security, peace and joy in Mary's heart as she held on tight to God.

"This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.” ( Jesus.)

It is good to celebrate the coming of Messiah Jesus to the world and his perfect story.

I heard a song this time last year, a soul song, a spontaneous song a lady had recorded. It was a song about Jesus the healer, the Messiah, who came to earth to set us free and lift us as his friends.

Everyone who sincerely calls on the name of the Lord Jesus is heard, and set free.

Jesus describes himself 'I am the good shepherd, and I lay down my life for the sheep.' He said he was sent to 'the lost sheep of Israel.'

When a sheep goes astray, wanders out of the fold, the good shepherd will go far to get it, and bring it back.

From her song, it seemed as though this lady had been rescued from a situation through God's love.

It was a song expressing her love for him, her acknowledgment of him, and what he had done for her.

'Well hallelujah, Jesus'.

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How silently, how silently, the wondrous gift is given. So God imparts to human hearts the blessings of His heaven. No ear may hear His coming, but in this world of sin, where meek souls will receive Him still, the dear Christ enters in.

Observations

This post relates to the 'Obama Antichrist?' question. Scroll down for all posts relating to the matter.

In respect of the birth certificate matter: it was an article in the Times of April 2008 that first revealed that Barack Obama's mother was in fact three months pregnant with him when she married his purported natural father. This article is now included in the 'Barack Obama birth certificate and other issues' post. Many people believe that the man who is purported to be his natural father, who left him when he was two and then saw him again the once, is no such thing. Others believe that there is simply a cover up going on about Obama's place of birth among Obama's political affiliates.

Here, an apparent last stand to stop the Obama train to the White House. Under the 'Obama crimes website.' Barack Obama was being asked to prove he was a natural born US citizen and submit proper proof before the 1st of December 2008, (i.e. before taking the Oval Office), or he was to be held to be in full breach of the Constitution and no one should have to obey anything he might chose to enforce. Apparently the matter is going further and is to be heard on the 9th of January 2009. A 'writ of ceratori' apparently. 'I am going forth', Berg writes. I have put afew updates on the Barack Obama birth certificate post accordingly.

This Berg is carrying a burden for Israel.

The Barack Obama birth certificate non existence : it is an extraordinary event in the case, worthy of note, ( in order to produce a birth certificate he will have to produce one with a father's name on it, or demonstrate the lack of any father's name).

Here, Barack Obama attempted to deal with the allegations that his identity was not known. Joking, though without humour, that his name was 'Steve.'

Not a little extraordinary for an election candidate eighteen days before an election.

He failed to produce a birth certificate at this stage, and has still failed to, apparently. He pointedly sends up the United States Senate as a bunch of 'serious deadbeats, unrepentant low life punks.' (Well, he should know, some might argue.) He apparently complains that allegations about him are getting far out and uses this to fancy over the birth certificate issue.

Barack, making a quip about the many people who claim him as a Messiah figure, attempted, while stating that he was not Jesus, to allude to the Nativity of Christ.

He said '.....I was not "born in a manger".'

Here. He states 'I was not "born in a manger"', and jokes, humourlessly, that he was 'born on Crypton'.

When alluding to the Nativity of Christ..( or rather, attempting to...)..

Barack distorted the bible again. Jesus was not 'born in a manger', he was lain in a manger, born in a stable.

Press focus on the Archbishop.

It was some speech he gave there. It didn't succeed in allying concerns. He didn't answer the question he said he was answering, 'Who is Barack Obama?' or explain the lacking evidence of his birth certificate and place.
He boasts about his lack of humility and passes it off to the guests. He must be too awesome, he insists.

Hardly anyone's laughter at the speeches seems genuine, but that's a fancy politicians, senior police, Judges and lawyers bash for you.

Oh no: here is a relatively new song calling Barack Obama 'the I am.' He approved it. "I am Obama." It suggests that he is 'one' with every one of his followers, that he represents all his followers individually and personally, and that he is the answer to the world's problems and the hope for the future. 'The dew fresh on the grass.' 'Hope without colour', 'Love without borders.' 'Honour without orders.'

The positive claims about Barack Obama are entirely false. They are entirely without foundation.

His followers are stating ' I am Obama.'
This rubbish has been getting increasingly aggressive. It looks like it's expressly aggressive antichrist in spirit. One deluded, aggressive man is wearing a jacket with 'New World Order' written on the front, and ' The Hand of God' written on its back.

Jesus the true Messiah, who is nothing like Obama , said: 'Before Abraham was born, I am.'

The horrible song linked above ends on a suggestive note. A picture of Obama without a face, merged into what looks like a shredded flag, suggesting that he represents and absorbs every one of his followers faces from every cultural background and position.

There is the following scripture as seen:

' "And you know what is restraining him (the man of sin) now so that he may be revealed in his his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains it will do so until he is taken out of the midst. And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and his coming. The coming of the lawless one by the activity (energeian) of Satan will be with all power and signs and wonders of falsehood, and with every deceit of unrighteousness in those who are to perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. On account of this God will send upon them a working of error, to make them believe what is false (literally the lie); so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."


Here, a deluded character sings a hymn to Obama calling him 'precious Lord' and asking him ' lead me home'.

The song ends with an insinuation that no one will be lead home by 'precious Lord Obama' unless they voted for him in an American election.

Here, an imbecility from Barcelona.

For information, I attend a a church that believes in the full scriptures. A Spirit lead Church. It is the Church the Lord has joined me to at this time. It comes under the Evangelical Alliance. I have friends in other Churches and I go to their Churches sometimes. They are Churches full of serious Christians. I believe that true Christians who put their faith in Jesus Christ are all the Church.
I feel that unity among Christians is essential at this time. I also feel it's important to refuse the antichrist demagogue Barack Obama.

Here's Obama's post election interview .

Barack Obama and the 'Beasts of Revelation.'

Looking objectively at interpretations of the beasts of the book of Revelation as applied to Barack Obama and his announced 'New World Order.'

This interpretation suggests that the first beast of Revelation represents the emerging 'New World order', or 'global governance'. ( 'One world government'.) These authors quote the bible well. I refer here uniquely to the page linked which gives a good outline of the Revelation scripture beasts. ( I have not had time to observe the rest of the pages on that site. )

As ever, in all cases, depend on your bible, and a Christian Church you feel you can trust.

The 'first beast' , (the beast like a leopard, with feet like a bear) represents the New World Order or 'global government' according to the above link. It may represent the New World Order a little more:

'And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were the feet of a bear, and in his mouth the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered at the beast. And they worshiped the dragon which gave power to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying who is like him? Who can make war with him? '

...It might be suggestive of more aspects of different world governments and systems that stand in opposition to Christ that come together to form the 'One World Government' prophesied in the bible.
Also, the 'signs and wonders' that are not of God which are to emerge in the 'end times', according to the bible, surely suggest much more than just endless technology advancement; there is political achievement suggested, an ability to influence multitudes, etc. supernatural occurrences; perhaps there's much more to come.

The site linked above suggests that the 'New World Order' ( 'One world government') will come out of the people, it will be made up of a coming together of the people. These people may be represented by the 'sea' from which the 'beast' described in the bible emerges.

A coming together of the people to form a one world government entirely corresponds with what Barack Obama is advocating in his endless message in support of his 'New World Order':

"We are the ones we've been waiting for."

Barack Obama is not excluding the current world politicians from his 'we are the ones', 'we are the ones we've been waiting for' messages; rather, everyone is 'coming together as one' into his New World Order ( One World Government) as far as he is concerned. ( Except those who refuse to join in.)

^{One modern translation of the bible scripture here: 14} Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. ¹⁵ He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. ¹⁶ He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, ¹⁷ so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
¹⁸ This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

If the first beast uniquely depicts the currently emerging 'New World Order', and Barack Obama is the one to enforce the 'mark of the beast', ( popularly thought to be the veri-chip), then Barack Obama is represented by the 'second beast' in the Revelation prophecies. He is then the 'beast with horns like a lamb', the 'false lamb' of the book of Revelation: and thus a false Messiah and a false prophet: ( the 'son of perdition' , the 'Antichrist' man.) Possessed by satan, speaking like satan. 'Speaking as a dragon.'
Self adulating and blaspheming..

..'the one' who enforces the 'mark of the beast' and forces everyone to 'worship the beast.'

...'And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and all who dwell in it, to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he does great wonders, and makes fire to come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceives all who dwell on the earth by means of the miracles that he had power to do in the sight of the beast, saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to the beast, which had been wounded by the sword, and did live. And he had power to give life to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, to receive a mark in their right hand or on their foreheads; and that no man may buy or sell, save that he had the mark , or the name, of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let he who has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man; and his number is six-hundred threescore and six'.'

The bible states that the first beast of Revelation is 'wounded by the sword' and that its wound will be healed, which causes people to marvel.

Barack Obama has described America as 'wounded', and he is stating that America's 'wound' can be healed.

Barack Obama states that he intends to 'heal America' ( He said "heal the wounds of this nation") through the formation of the 'New World Order' and his political dealings , which, it is thought, will create a 'false peace' before terrible tribulation comes. ( It is thought he may cause tribulation on a global scale, and attack Israel and the Church particularly.)

The components of the New World religion (the false religions and false belief systems that all come together to form one , a discussion here) that will apparently become a part of the 'New World Order' or 'Global Government' are possibly depicted in the picture of the 'beast like a leopard' with 'feet like a bear', in the bible.

Upon his many heads were the names of blasphemy.'(click)

People who will eventually receive 'the mark of the beast', a mark that implies the beast, on their foreheads. Or their right hand.

Barack Obama seems determined to amalgamate and develop the current practices of the world's false religion and false belief systems into one belief system through which people may worship 'the beast'.

According to scripture, many are going to worship 'the beast and his image' ( the 'image' of the 'first beast' described in the bible book of Revelation.) Many will be forced to. Many are going to willingly receive 'the mark of the beast or the number of his name.'

The act of worship of the 'first beast' will apparently happen through a progressive, developing 'New World Religion'.
The currently emerging 'New World religion' seems to be composed of extracts from false religions , self adulation and mutual reverence.
Barack Obama is its main advocate. He is being hailed by his followers and most of the media as an 'enlightened being.'

The Dragon, the first beast and the second beast are, by the interpretation above, a 'False Trinity' dominated by 'the dragon', satan.

Assuming that Barack Obama is represented by the 'beast with horns like a lamb', the current worshipful adulation of Obama and what he stands for that is going on is effectively adulating him while he is in the process of bringing in the 'first beast', (the New world order/one world government) . Adulating him while he is moving people to a point where they will think nothing of 'worshiping the beast and his image' or 'receiving the mark of the beast or the number of his name.'
There is the suggestion being made that some of the adulation of Obama that is going on is already worship of the 'first beast' as it emerges.

Both Revelation scripture 'beasts' are owned by satan who is being adulated as and when the penultimate false Messiah, the 'son of perdition' ( looking at Obama in the case) is adulated.

'Worship' is express devotion and praise in knowledge of what you're doing. Defined by some as 'Adoring acknowledgement.'

The above interpretation assumes that the 'son of perdition' ( popularly referred to in modern times as the 'Antichrist man' who is to appear on earth) is the one who will actively 'enforce the mark of the beast or the number of his name'. ( We are looking the suggestion that Barack Obama is that man.)

Here are some Obama quotes relevant to the points made in this essay ( sorry they have to come through a McCain ad.)




Below, relates to points raised ( the author of this video below has come to a definitive conclusion about Barack Obama).



There is also the suggestion that the 'son of perdition', the 'Antichrist man', is depicted by the picture of the 'first beast'. Looking at Barack Obama in the case, this Revelation scripture interpretation equally suggests that he is a prime advocate of the emerging New World Order and New World religion, and a False Messiah.
By this interpretation the 'son of perdition' embodies, represents and heads up the New World Order ( World Governance) and all it brings. 'Upon his many heads were the names of blasphemy.'
This interpretation assumes that the the 'son of perdition', the 'penultimate False Messiah' , the 'Antichrist' man ( we are looking at Barack Obama in the case) is not the one to enforce 'the mark of the beast' or 'the number of his name', but that there will be another who will enforce it on his behalf.

Here is a link to an extended outline of the basis for the interpretation just above, ( the assumption that the 'son of perdition' is represented by the first beast).
This interpretation makes the dragon and the two beasts no less a 'False Trinity.'

There is also a suggestion being made that Barack Obama is merely the first beast's 'prophet' and heralds the penultimate 'False Messiah' figure, and therefore precedes the 'son of perdition', penultimate 'False Messiah figure' ( 'Antichrist') in some way, and that this figure has not yet appeared.

There is also the suggestion being made that Barack Obama is a false Messiah of no world significance; this does not seem at all plausible.

The past two thousand years history have made the reliability and dependancy of the Lord's word very clear. Jesus explained that there would be many false Messiahs and wars and rumours of wars, and a penultimate world significant false Messiah, who the apostles call the 'son of perdition.' The bible is accurate. There are quite a few contendors for part or definitive fulfillment of the prophecies about the 'beasts of Revelation' and there have been a number of antichrist dictators who have seemed to be chasing after the role of 'son of perdition'. Barack Obama is catching peoples' attention on account of his being a false Messiah about whom Chrsitians have stated that they have 'grave misgivings' who is head of the free world, and has called for a global government.

Let's 'watch and pray'.

The coming veri-chip, the micro chip that can be implanted in a person's hand or forehead, thought to be 'the mark of the beast', which it is thought Barack Obama may enforce, or that someone may enforce on his behalf. Bear in mind Barack Obama's personalized and angry contempt for the book of Leviticus, which we've all seen:

Leviticus 19:28 'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.'

There's an old saying: 'show me the seven year old and I'll show you the man.'

What is this "symbol" or "image", that the child Barack (then Barry) is wearing around his neck in the form of a medallion, encouraged by his mother? ( See photograph below.) This horrible thing he's wearing round his neck in the photograph below does not entirely resemble any of the signs of satanism or the advertised occult based signs of the 'New World Order' of the past. It could be seen as suggestive of its wearer's fostership by satan himself, it's ugly enough. Is it meant to be a face, or an image suggestive of devils ? Or both? It is particularly hideous.



From another perspective it could be seen as an amalgamation of past occult signs. Barack Obama is currently reported to often wear various suspect signs/symbols, apparently resembling signs of satanism, on badges and so on, ( all of them seem to have something of an original vent) and apparently these signs he wears are combinations of past satanist signs, by popular opinion. One he wore last year looks like the advertised strange long star that apparently represents satanism with a slight variation. He had apparently placed a strange face shape in the middle of it.

This much debated 'flair' of this man as to whom many have already come to a definitive conclusion (here), would seem to be in line with scripture prophecies about the end times, because the scriptures are thought to suggest that those who worship 'the beast and his image' will be subscribing to a 'world religion' which will amalgamate all past and contemporary forms of what amounts to worship of satan.

( here you can buy a Barack Obama Medallion. Not recommended.)

We've noticed how Barack Obama is displaying his 'flair' with regard to the American seal which he adapted for his purposes during the course of his campaign. This does tend to suggest that he feels that the New World Order that he is setting in place should have some sort of unprecedented 'image'.

There is a certain structure similarity between the new American seal he's suggested imposing on America and the free world, and the ghastly image on the medallion in the family photograph.


"A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: 'If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus' " (Rev. 14:9-12).


Posts: The top of the Mountain
The proposed New World religion

The 'Obama the Antichrist?' blog is very well edited and contains data on matters relating to the New World Order being put in place by Barack Obama and others.

n.b. Adolf Hitler's attempted world order had an associated 'image': the swastika. Though he was an extremely strong antichrist figure, Hitler was apparently not the penultimate 'son of perdition' , the penultimate 'False Messiah' depicted in the Thessalonians scripture, though he was obviously an extremely strong candidate. ( During his time many believed he was "the 'Antichrist". He was an antichrist dictator.) He did not achieve his aim of being head of the free world. He did not enforce the mark and the number described in the bible on the whole of the free world and neither did one member of his psychopath Gestapo. He did not achieve world domination; he was driven back.
He forced everyone he could force, to submit to his 'emerging new order' and its image. And many were willing participants in his psychopathic schemes.

The 'second beast' according to scripture excersises all the authority of the 'first beast' and to cause an 'image' or 'likeness' of it to be made. This image is given life and the 'power to speak' and also to 'pronounce the death penalty.'

' And he had the power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and to cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.'

This is usually translated as implying that councils that represent an antichrist governance will obtain power to defend it and so put to death those who do not comply.

As previously stated: clearly, no one in their right minds today would think of Hitler as a Messiah figure, though while he was rising, he posed as one. As a solution to world problems. Germany thought of him as some sort of 'Messiah' to their desperate problems and the whole nation appeared to go mad, demonized in some way. Hitler quickly revealed himself as an authoritarian madman. He was recognized for the threat that he was and driven right back. ( Too late for a great many.)

Obama has been very artful at concealing his plans while he brings in 'the New World Order' just as his affiliates have been.

Barack is new i.e. he has publicly come to the fore over the last decade. His announced 'New World Order' ( One world government) is not in place just yet. You could say it was emerging, rising up out of a sea of people.

In the scripture there seems to be a suggestion that 'worship of the beast and his image' brings about the same consequences as 'receiving the mark of the beast or the number of his name'. Doesn't there.

"A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: 'If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.

This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus' " (Rev. 14:9-12).

There is also the line in the same scripture ( the first line we read there) that seems to indicate that definitive worshipful devotion to the 'beast and his image' goes hand in hand with receiving the 'mark of the beast or 'the number of his name'.

The overall suggestion in the scriptures seems to be that the Lord will give people a chance right up until the last moment, right up until they decide to permanently refuse him by willfully 'worshiping the beast and his image' and/or 'receiving the 'mark of the beast or the number of his name'.

Throughout the scriptures, the Lord often, effectively says, 'Do not doubt my love for you, for it is greater than anything you can possibly imagine.' He often effectively repeats the message; 'I want you to trust yourself to me completely, then you will enter into a security, peace and joy, that you have never before experienced or believed possible. Do not doubt me, I am utterly dependable.'

Looking at Obama as the 'son of perdition' and looking at the 'Global government' that he is proposing as relevant in the case, (looking at this possibility) it seems that a definitive 'beast's image' would notbe fully developed yet. An established 'New World Order ( One world government) isn't quite here yet. It's announced and on its way. The full veri-chip, popularly thought to be the 'mark of the beast' isn't quite here yet. It is not yet being enforced in support of an established 'New World Order' or ' World Government'.

Shout to the Lord

Post below has had a lot of additons ( some for clarity) and extra time . I feel that the 'new world religion' that seems to be on its way should be denounced and exposed for what it is. My loyalty is to my Lord who went to the cross for me. My saviour, my Jesus.



'And it shall be in those days that whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.' What amazing, merciful God.
'For God so loved the world, that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.'

~~~~~

Recommended.

Barack Obama, his announced 'new world order', and the 'emerging new world religion'

The 'Alpha and the Oemga.' 'I am the Alpha and the Omega.' Jesus said. The first and the last.' 'The beginning and end of all things.'

The Church interprets this statement of Jesus to mean that the Holy Trinity, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, has always been God. Jesus did not suddenly begin to exist in Mary's womb or the stable there. In the New Testament, after Jesus' resurrection, the apostles explain Jesus the Messiah as 'having become human'. ( using their exact words). He was conceived in the virgin Mary's womb by a miracle of the Holy Spirit, and was born in a stable.
Jesus is God's son, he is God. The Holy Trinity are one.
Jesus' spiritual innocence and purity are perfect. He is the 'bright morning star.' He experienced childhood in human form and went on to experience adulthood in human form. His Spirit is the Holy Spirit, and always has been.

Here the prophet Isaiah.


New American Standard Bible
For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.'

Set to music.

The Old Testament scriptures, the living word of God, contain God's commandments. Jesus, the living word of God, emphasised compassion for others, loving the Lord God with all your heart, soul and mind, and your neighbour as yourself. This gospel is his. He demonstrated his genuine love for mankind in all his acts, including fulfilling scriptures that prophesied that sinless, he would go to the cross for us and take the penalty for sin that we might repent, put our faith in him, be acceptable to God, and have eternal life.
No other spiritual leader on earth has done anything like this. None have been sinless. ( Many Christian leaders do their best to follow in Jesus' footsteps and lead them on in Christ.)
Leaders of all false religions are sinners who demonstrate self adulation motives. Often political motives.
The dialogue the Lord Jesus gave his disciples at the last supper, given that he knew what was directly to come, evidences his perfect innocence. As does everything in the Old testament, everything else he did on earth, everything he continues to do following his resurrection.

Any attempt to adapt or negate Jesus and his teachings is a hollow sham. A counterfeit.

It is thought that this world is edging towards a 'New world religion' that will support the announced 'New world order', in fulfillment of biblical prophecy. This proposed new 'world religion', currently dominant in the West, consists of an elaborate humanism, a 'we, the people, have it within us to solve answer to the world's problems if only we all get together' ( an ethos that has often been exploited by dictators for political purposes) and a coming together of an apparent selection of teachings from religions that the God of the bible, the Lord, rejects entirely.

The emerging 'New World religion helps itself to some of Jesus' teaching without acknowledging him. ( Many false religions do this.) His instruction to show kindness and compassion in particular. It also suggests that 'mankind's common humanity' can be perfected if everyone gets together and ignores the full bible scriptures and Jesus.
This 'New World Religion' invites people to indulge in hollow self glorifying; it's a deception. In the light of thousands of years of human history, people are being invited to buy into the notion that they may by sheer effort of will emerge as love-filled sinless wonders and a solution to world problems. They are being told they do not need Christ.
The emerging 'new world religion' sets itself up as a 'more plausible solution' to human problems than the essential matter of man's need for repentance and the fact that Jesus went to the cross.

In an earlier post we looked at how the bible shows that one of satan's tricks is to put his false and deceptive ideas forward as a 'solution' to the problems he instigates.

The emergent 'New world religion' is an attempt to set a thesis and a religion up above Christ. Not one of these advocates of the 'new world religion' would lay down their lives for you.

Jesus did.

It is being given a fancy name, this 'new world religion': 'the golden rule.' An outline of one interpretation here. It is being promoted everywhere.
Here, courtesy 'Obama the Antichrist?' blog, an interesting article.

Here it is, the new 'world religion ethic', introduced by a woman who displays an angry vent, clothed in intellectualism.

She starts out with an attack; on 'fundamentalism'.
For anyone who knows Christ, 'fundamentalism' in respect of belief in the Holy Scriptures is not an aggressive word at all; it is simple belief in Jesus and respect for his beautiful Holy Spirit, it is belief in the full scriptures. The woman introducing the video above falsely betrays Jesus as an 'aggressive warmonger like the rest'. False. Jesus is Prince of Peace, Lord of correct judgement, with all the power of the Holy Spirit at his disposal. She goes on to recommend that compassion should be applied, but that Jesus should not be respected and believed in: that's too 'fundamental,' she suggests.

A deluded group then go on to pontificate about the concept of faith and promote their essential 'golden rule' which they elevate to deistic status.

Elsewhere you can see the 'new world faith' emerging in all its forms; various 'campaigns against extremism' incorporate a snide attack on full belief in Jesus the Messiah. There is nothing 'extremist' about faith in Jesus, who is 'Prince of Peace'.

Jesus is the 'author and perfecter of our faith' as Christians. He is the Messiah. The 'first and the last and the beginning and end of all things'.

The emerging 'new world faith/religion' that people are being asked to participate in promotes the philosophy of 'god in self'. It's nothing to do with having the Holy Spirit within as a gift from Jesus Christ in response to repentance and belief in him as Lord and saviour. Mankind are not sinners, the emerging 'new world religion' suggests; not children of the fall of Adam and Eve at all. It suggests that Satan never tempted us, and we never fell short of the glory of God. It proposes that 'Mankind is something of a warm, golden glow, if only everyone could somehow 'blend as one' and tap into one another's resources'. Men and women are 'gods in the making' who don't need salvation, it suggests. It encourages spiritual pride, it's antichrist.

It's main proponent is Barack Hussein Obama, who is looked to as its representative. He is being hailed a 'modern saviour' all over the place. 'An enlightened being.'

The scriptures advise that God's enemy satan is very adept at deceiving people into 'worshiping foreign gods' , and has spent thousands of years doing it. According to the bible, all 'worship of foreign gods' is worship of satan.

Scriptures advise on the spiritual origin of the emerging 'new world religion'. Christians everywhere are suggesting that it's 'satanic counterfeit.' It is.

The scriptures explain satan's defeat at the cross of Jesus Christ as follows: ( here's one scripture)

Hebrews 2:14-15 tells us: “Since then the children [that’s us, the children of God] share in flesh and blood [that is, we have physical bodies], He Himself [Jesus] likewise also partook of the same [a physical body], that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil; and might deliver those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives” .

A command to satan to cease his activity 'in the name of Jesus' spoken by a born again Christian believer who loves Christ is what satan recognizes as his defeat in any given situation.

People from all religions are running to subscribe to the 'new world religion' ethos, afraid of looking as if they're not part of some sort of 'golden glow.' It's very vain.

The only people who won't have it, are 'fundamental Christians' (born again Christians who fully believe the whole bible) who wont sell out to anyone or any other faith. (Some professed Christians have sold out to the 'New world religion'; in doing so, they demonstrate they never knew or respected Jesus in the first place). The reason Christians who know Jesus won't sell out to anyone or any other faith is that they're born again, they know the Lord's love, they love the Lord Jesus. Jesus and his the Holy Spirit are essential their lives and they know the Holy Trinity is priceless. No one who's received the Lord's spirit will have anything to do with this 'New world religion'.

"Jesus said to her, "Every one who drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the